Tapio Makela (by way of Pit Schultz <pit@contrib.de>) on Mon, 17 Feb 97 11:39 MET |
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nettime: Cut it out! |
Dear Nettimers, Mr. Cook and Paul Garrin, I think you should stop this discussion on nettime. Cook«s rhetoric, style, argumentation is so appalling, that I do not want to read more. Goodbye! Instead, I would rather see some discussion on couple of important topics related to name.space: 1. Independent funding for artists by combining innovation, know how and business skills. Maybe there are those on Nettime who can rely on public funding without considering why others would like to create private income to support arts and critical practices. As the European governments have not been quite as neo conservative as the U.S. government, maybe this is not a big concern for everyone. I am not willing to wait for 10-20 years until the generations now in power in my country realize, that there are creative practices within various branches of new media. For this reason, ethically well grounded common efforts to raise funding through the use of Internet, for instance, are very welcome. Does someone think that private income, and therefore, private businesses related to arts and critical (tactic) media are more questionable than, say, associations? If so, why? 2. If name.space is based on the idea that it offers an alternative name.space, and is not even trying to become any Big Daddy mainframe, the discussion that Cook and some others have been promoting should be addressed towards IANA/IHAC, not name.space. Since both dns and Internet access provider services will be vastly growing businesses, it is in the interest of its users that there will be competition. Name.space is an alternative already now, but it may become soon universally resolvable. Until it does, we can use it as a critical, interesting subnet. Since name.space is in no way making the functioning of Internet risky, but instead, may make it more flexible in the future, why the resistance? Why does Paul Garrin have to defend the project, instead of discussing about it? 3. There does not exist "An Internet Community" that can provide a license to run it. Internet, unless one is absolutely naive on purpose, consists of thousands of interest groups. Attempt to exclude competition is done in an interest of groups that benefit from doing so. We should not only stare at Internet, but think about how the broadcast radio and television were monopolized, in different ways in different countries. RIGHT NOW is the time to act, if one wants to influence the infrastructures of Iternet, not ten years from now. If digital networks allow horizontal administration instead of vertical control, why to resist this possibility? We are no longer competing over analogue bandwith on the air. The DNS has already become a controlled & slow environment compared to the models proposed within name.space. I think it will be really interesting to see how name.space will develop, but it seems like there are plenty of nettimers who wish to crush the egg before we see the bird. I am just surprised of such narrow mindedness... Maybe we should wait for a month or so and return to the name.space discussion then? 4. Artists and skilled media labs run by them should think about more ideas for running services on the net that could support them financially. Maybe we could open a smaller mailing list for this kind of dialogue soon. 5. If Mr. Cook does continue to write, I would appreciate from him a civilized style and reasonable argumenting, instead of: "world is going to dance to pauls tune because he WISHES it to do so. how nice. and the internet is now going to run by treaty. how nice." This rhetoric rings a bell... it somehow reminds me of the Penguin from Gotham City. yours, Tapio MŠkelŠ Tapio Makela (Tapio MŠkelŠ) director of MUU, artist organization based in Helsinki, Finland Also a critic, journalist and researcher Home: Lapinrinne 4 D 30, 00180 Helsinki, Finland, tel +358-9-6857373 Work: Rikhardinkatu 4, 00130 Helsinki, Finland tel: +358-9-625972 fax: +358-9-625376 http://muu.autono.net e-mail: <director@kaapeli.fi> if out of order, try <tapio@muu.autono.net> -- * distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission * <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, * collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets * more info: majordomo@is.in-berlin.de and "info nettime" in the msg body * URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner@is.in-berlin.de