Andreas Broeckmann on Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:10:58 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> less (net time) is more


panos, friends,

i like this idea, especially because it highlights what is valuable about many of the exchanges that include the conviviality of arguing. (once upon a time, in the later 1990s, there was a string of such meetings... [incl. big arguments about joint projects like the READ ME publication])

i also like how panos's proposal gives a mild hint that loneliness might be one of the ghosts that have haunted nettimers in the last months, or longer.

maybe instead of creating a strict rule ("no single-author e-mails"), panos's suggestion can be taken as an encouragement for all of us people before posting: to whom can i show this before it gets posted?

so, "ideally", any message would come from a relay-person, a mentor chosen by the author...

ok, i see the problems of such a system, but i like the feeling of being in this "convivial dream nettime" for a while... ;-)

regards,
-a


Am 11.06.19 um 23:03 schrieb panayotis antoniadis:

Dear all,

I have been following since a few years and tried many times to write
but for some reason never pressed the send button.

It is perhaps that I was always wanting to suggest somehow obvious,
simple things, which have been said before many times. But I do think
that it is important to keep trying with the simplest ideas.

So, for me a possible future for mailing lists would be to simply make
face-to-face contact an integral part of their main "communication
protocol".

I don't know, a few people meeting more or less randomly and then making
the habit to send a common e-mail to a list would be cool. Then a
possible proposal for the future of nettime: Single e-mails forbidden!
People should send to the list only if they are at least with one more
person discussing live the content of their common e-mail.

In any case, if we are serious about privacy, sovereignty, ecology, etc,
we need less not more data, even if they "belong to the people".

Instead of claiming for more private, secure, user-owned data I think we
should actively question first data itself, and demand less connected
things, less blockchain world savers, less online groups, etc.

Anyway, I am happy that I finally sent my first e-mail to nettime
without thinking too much about it :-)

Best,

Panos
http://nethood.org/panayotis/
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