Paul D. Miller on Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:31:14 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Where Music Will Be Coming From - Kevin Kelly? |
Hey Derek, thanx for the post. All I can say is, well... it seems like the usual all Anglo-American take on music that we keep getting bombarded with in theory circles to me... sigh... a whole issue and article on this kind of thing, and no mention of stuff like early hip-hop mix tapes, no jazz, no mention of blues (except in a Euro style situation...) ... Nor a mention of the Lomax collection that under-girded Moby's last album "Play" which, amusingly enough, was based on cotton picking songs from plantation chants of African Americans in the Old South etc etc black pain still helps sell alot of cars etc etc but hey.... anyway - don't forget, I write this, ironically... when will the editors of these mags get into the 21st century? I guess you could call the phenomenon "Science of the Lambs" - play it again, Sam! The clones and copies just float on by... It never ceases to amaze... Good article, but well... its a diverse world. I'd really love to see more dynamic and open ended, truly multi-cultural takes on this kind of thing. Kevin Kelly always has an angle on this kind of thing, but yeah, the "liberalization" of markets issue, and the whole deregulation thing, when you see him apply it to music, you just gotta wonder: how much longer can the same ideas be reprocessed. There was a conference on digital media and copyright law at Harvard University's Law School that John Perry Barlowe put together with Chuck D from Public Enemy, me, and various others on the future of copyright vs copyleft law etc etc and there's various papers and essays on the topic at the site http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/netmusic_agenda.html and there's another conference coming up at Duke University on a similar topic with Dick Hebdige and some other folks, all of whom are doing essays/articles etc etc on sampling & law issues etc etc too http://WWW.LAW.DUKE.EDU/musicandtheft/ but the main thing is that they always look for a way to commidify what essentially is going to be an open source based system. They can't control it, but the illusion of control, still seems to carry water for that crowd. The thought of how Kelly can walk a fine line between the implications of his article and how he pretty much knows that most of what he's writing will be obsolete within a year or so, makes one wonder at the irony of it all. There's an old story Buckminster Fuller used to tell when faced with the social engineering issues he faced when he was trying to push his dymaxion concepts: brevity is the soul of wit... Dymaxion = Dynamic + Maximum + Tension = 'Doing More With Less' if you're going to be around when the conference happens, well... bring your I-Pod, I guess... okay, peace, Paul ============================================================================ "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free...." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Port:status>OPEN wildstyle access: www.djspooky.com Paul D. Miller a.k.a. Dj Spooky that Subliminal Kid Subliminal Kid Inc. Office Mailing Address: Music and Art Management 245 w14th st #2RC NY NY 10011 # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net