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>From ---@lightdog.com Fri Aug 25 17:39:55 2000
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:55:30 -0700
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: 04278.jpg [1/1] (12hr)

what are these pics of?

>From ---@hotmail.com Wed Aug 30 19:31:48 2000
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:03:54 GMT
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: 12 hour project

Couldn't find anything that resembled your description of the 12 hour 
project. Is this the interim before the end? Will it be available in the 
future? Will archives of the past postings be available?

New to the word hypertext but very interested in connecting the concept with 
graduate writing programs and letterpress.

Should I just give your last listserv posting to a student who knows more 
about computers or is the site incomplete at this time, as it seems.

Linda Dare
Otis College of Art & Design

>From ---@juno.com Sat Sep  2 08:08:04 2000
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:33:16 -0700
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: UPDATE: the 12hr isbn-jpeg project

DEar Sir: I have no idea what on earth you are talking about Karl J.Volk

Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:42:35 -0500
From: LushiousX <---@hotmail.com>
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Hi Brad.

 Wow, I didnt realize that you were posting at the same nearly, or I would
have sent you a little chat:-) Im digging the 12 hour series. I nearly have
enough of them for a good slide show, then Im really going to enjoy them
more. Im not sure if the hotmail address is working or not try:
jcates@earthlink.net if you would like to write back, that one is good.
Thanks for the overview of your series.

>From ---@rhizome.org Tue Sep  5 20:23:55 2000
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 13:17:48 -0700
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: your mail

At 07:57 AM 9/5/00 -0700, you wrote:
>ok  /:b

here's a few 2 start.. take as much time as you want..

+ + +

Q: You're a pioneer of sorts. The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project began at the
end of 1994 and has run continuously since then. Can you describe the
project--what it does, where the images come from, etc.? How are ISBNs

Q: Do you have a particular interest in nonstandard net art formats such
as usenet, ftp, email, or are/where you simply using the technology
available to you at the time?

Q: What's your position on art vis-a-vis the museum? What are the
perfect conditions for artmaking?

>From ---@rhizome.org Wed Sep  6 07:31:05 2000
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 01:15:26 -0700
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: your mail

At 08:23 PM 9/5/00 -0700, you wrote:

>alex: OK. Good initial questions (that I'll respond to). But first tell me
>what you know about the 12hr-project: how much of it have you seen?
>Typically/predictably, Artworld-Acolytes don't stay-tuned beyond a few
>images-- but Others do: the measure of my/any 'Success.'

to be honest.. all i know is from the descriptions that you have on the 
website. plus just reading your emails over the years..

but my knowledge doesn't really matter, since for the interview i want you 
to describe it for someone who's never seen it before. dig?


>From ---@webtv.net Sat Sep 16 21:30:23 2000
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:27:01 -0400 (EDT)
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: 12 hr

I've been enjoying these odd posts for several months, off and on.  What
are these?  12 hour exposures?  What a concept!  :)  I've been looking
for one to use as a background for my sig or webpage, if I find one
mostly dark with whispery hints of smoke.  Is this something you would
give me permission to use, if I found the right pic?


<sig pending>

>From ---@earthlink.net Sat Sep 16 21:32:52 2000
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 22:35:43 -0600
To: brad brace <bbrace@netcom.com>
Subject: re:repost

 Hello Brad Brace, I never saw the repost of 04318 on the 2
newsgruops I am currently subscribed to. They are
alt.binaries.pictures.12hr and
alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.misc . Is there another one I
should be subscribing to? or should I contact my network
adm.  Let me know and I will be happy to do either. I have
really fallen in love with your project over the past year
and have told any one who will listen to me about it.  It's
a big part of my online experience. I literally look forward
to it everyday .  the first thing I do when I go online is
save your jpeg in my bbrace folder everyday. Very nice work! 
Is there anyway I can get archived files from you?  I
haven't used them yet in any work that I am currently
involved in, but i do have some idea

s and will give you FULL credit for your wonderful project
if and when things unfold as they should. happily keeping up
with you, David Koch

>From ---@home.com Mon Sep 18 06:58:11 2000
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:00:58 -0400
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: 12 hr


I was curious as to what all these photographs labelled "12hr" are all



>From ---@scattercreek.com Tue Oct  3 18:47:59 2000
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:41:40 -0700
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: intimate complicity

Groooovy Tuesday. Far North. Right arm.
Hairy Krishnas. Can I use one of your pictures
to use as a birthday card to my ex wife???
So enough with the yap, let's get on with the
..............other stuff.




>To: PHOTOART@lugb.latrobe.edu.au
>Subject: intimate complicity
>Date: Mon, Oct 2, 2000, 6:31 PM

> The photographic act consists of entering this space of intimate
> complicity, not to master it, but to play along with it and to demonstrate
> that nothing has been decided yet. "What cannot be said must be kept
> silent."  But what cannot be said can also be kept silent through a
> display of images.
>> The medium or process, of our time-electric technology is reshaping
>> and restructuring patterns of social interdependence and every aspect
>> of our personal life. It is forcing us to reconsider and reevaluate
>> practically every thought, every action, and every institution
>> formerly taken for granted. Everything is changing - you, your family,
>> your neighborhood, your education, your job, your government, your
>> relation to 'others.' And they're changing dramatically...
>> Based on an analysis of the structure and composition of the artistic
>> text and the way it operates in 'cueing' the audience's response to
>> the artifact, neoformalism assumes an aesthetic dimension to artistic
>> and literary texts. Neoformalism argues that form and content cannot
>> be separated - that form is meaning. Because neoformalism does not
>> seek to provide explanation for the author's motive or systemic
>> dimensions of an artifact and its place in society, neoformalism is an
>> exploratory approach - a place to begin the process of inquiry. The
>> aim of the formalist method, or at least one of its aims, is not to
>> explain the work, but to call attention to it, to restore that
>> 'orientation towards form' which is characteristic of a work of art.
> | The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project    >>>>           since 1994   <<<<
> |
> |+ + +         serial           ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/b/bbrace
> |+ + +      eccentric          ftp://ftp.idiom.com/users/bbrace
> +| + +     continuous       ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/bbrace
> + |+ +    hypermodern      ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace
> + +| +        imagery   ftp://ftp.pacifier.com/pub/users/bbrace
> |
>  |     News://alt.binaries.pictures.12hr ://a.b.p.fine-art.misc
>   |Reverse Solidus: http://www.teleport.com/~bbrace/bbrace.html
>    |        Mirror: http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net
> |
>  |{ brad brace }   <<<< bbrace@eskimo.com >>>>  ~finger for pgp
> |

> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:16:04 GMT
> From: ". m e ." <---@hotmail.com>
> Subject: hypermod max.
> brad.
> just saw your ftps.  some
> wonderful images.  perhaps
> you'd give maximumist photography
> a try... it resolves with
> the same effect.
> all.th.best
> matthew...
> ----------------------------
> Rocket-Fuel
>   http://www.rocket-fuel.com
> greyletter press
>   http://circle.hipster.org
> ----------------------------
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:44:55 +0200
> From: Freak <---@pp3.inet.fi>
> To: "[Brad Brace]" <bbrace@netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: 03752.jpg [1/1] (12hr)
> Great pics but why don't you send more pics in one time?? ... 10 would be
> cool ... thanks!
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:15:09 "GMT"
> From: ART SHIRER <---@airmail.net>
> To: Brad Brace <bbrace@netcom.com>
> Subject: re:continuous hypermodern imagery online: The 12hr ISBN-JPEG Project
> i'm not sure about continuous hypermod .  . .. but the images at
> wwwwhateveritwas in B/W are cool. i know zip about animating a
> website...so that adds to the intrigue.  -as
> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:44:43 +0100
> From: gian maria girardi <---@evo.it>
> To: { brad brace } <bbrace@netcom.com>
> Subject: judy berlin
> dear lord,
> yesterday i've seen a movie and thought a lot about your 12h project, im
> talking about judy berlin (Director Eric Mendelsohn), the photografy is so
> close to your 12h ones!  have u spot that? i told my friends about you
> hehe
> more congratulations for your snap shots
> stay handsome
> gian maria
> PS do you know of any other similar web gallery/project ?
> If you're so funny, why are you on your own tonight? "I Know its Over"
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:05:03 +1100
> From: Craig Andrews <---@ihug.com.au>
> To: { brad brace } <bbrace@netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: Artists' Books, Book Artists and the Book Art Webring submission
> Hi there Bruce,
> I've looked through your amazing site.
> I can't see any reason why you shouldn't be part of the WebRing if you
> want to.  It took me a while to understand why you thought of joining, but
> I can see it now.  Your art form is just 'out there', and not something
> that's seen as often as we see piccys on the wall; or the 'standard'
> Artist's Book work I'm used to seeing about the place etc.
> I really like it.
> So, sure if you want to put the panel on your site. Go ahead, pop in all
> the numbers/details etc, and give me a buzz back when you want to be
> added.
> BTW, if you want to change the icon to reflect your abilities/art form
> whatever, go right ahead.  I'd be pleased if you did.  Perhaps it'll
> encourage a few other out-of-the-ordinary Artists to join like you. :)
> regards,
> Craig Andrews
> Artists' Books, Book Artists' and Book Art
> http://homepages.com.au/~cga102/abba.htm
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:54:53 -0500
> From: Robert Farber <---@farber.com>
> To: { brad brace } <bbrace@netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: Welcome
> Brad,
> I visited your site. I must say I like your unique creative approach, but
> more importantly, I like your philosophy. Especially when it come to
> education. VERY well written!
> Can you post some of your thoughts and explain to the visitors on the Bio
> page what you are doing, so they may visit your site. Also, if possible a
> sampling of your images. Another thing would be a great stimulation to our
> members is if you post on the message board more about your creative
> thoughts. In the past we have had some wonderful exchanges. One of our
> members is a professor of psychology on the creative process.
> Best,
> Robert Farber
> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:39:04 EST
> From: ---@aol.com
> To: bbrace@netcom.com
> Subject: Skiing, wet vs. cold
> I'm glad you're not mad at me.  It's just that I have difficulty
> controlling my simulacra.
> I don't know anything about art, or the artworld, and I don't know
> anything about Tampa, Florida.  Ask me about Elizabeth's TAPS, girls
> all-star basketball, division III.  Who talks to Susan Richards so the
> message gets back to Newman (Trueman, Red White and Blueman) that Helen
> will be at home on Spring Break.  Shortcuts for passing the grammar and
> usage section of the SAT for the 10th Grade English classes I taught.
> I do think the Internet is a genuine media shift. ( I am a classic case in
> point even if my survival is by no means any more certain than my next
> permutation.) So I think you and Max and even Commander Crack are bringing
> something to birth, turning and turning on a wideneing gyre, even if it
> ends up Coming in Second in the Holy Land.
> Take care and rub in the SPF18,
> Catherine
> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:25:42 EDT
> From: ---@aol.com
> To: bbrace@netcom.com
> Subject: It's getting steeper.
> Wringing me like a deep sea sponge.
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:27:27 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Siegl Andrea <---@gewi.kfunigraz.ac.at>
> To: bbrace@netcom.com
> Subject: ..and a good surf before the carhunt
>   hello brad
>       gidday just, its about time i tell you that its a pleasure to surf
> your alignments on imagery and written ideas, its nice it seems your
> approach on things is similar to mine, your series on green is grande, you
> blur digitally (photoshopping) you scan from contactsheets or invert from
> negatives or slides, or is it all normal lens (whatever normal is) ?  its
> high noon here (vienna) and now time to hunt the cars again, power to
> creative spirit,
> ciao ciao,
> ea*_--_:::
> http://oeh.tu-graz.ac.at/~cab
> -----------------------------
> i can imitate t r o m b o n e
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:04:05 -0700
> From: ---@corp.visto.com
> To: bbrace@NETCOM.COM
> Subject: 12 hour project
> Keep on rockin man! I've been following your posts for nearly 5 years now
> and look forward to the next 12 hours each day. I'm a serious fan :) .
> cheerio
> www.tedbell.com
> Ted Bell
> Visual Designer
> Visto Corporation
> (650) 930 5074
> Visto.com. Life on the Dot.
> Check it out at http://www.visto.com/info
> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 21:15:14 +0100
> From: Aero <---@rherrero.demon.co.uk>
> To: bbrace@netcom.com
> Subject: no 12hrs
> Dear Brad,
> I subscribe to alt.binaries.pictures.12hr
> For the last 3 days no pictures have come through.
> Have you stopped posting to the group?
> Regards
> Aero
> inFINitE ART, Huddersfield,UK
> www.rherrero.demon.co.uk
> Phone:  00 44 (0) 1484 303737
> Love & Respect, Richard Herrero
> _.aERo._.aERo._.aERo._.aERo._
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:05:33 -0600
> From: modernkoch <---@earthlink.net>
> To: bbrace@netcom.com
> Subject: 12hr jpeg project
> Got one today (1st May)
> Glad to have you back.
> If you check out my website (url at bottom) you will see that my
> colleague (Ian - Blahulah) has used some of your jpegs in an animated
> gif
> Hope you don't mind
> I would like to mention you and your project on my web pages, alongside
> Ian's Blahulah animation, and put a link or links to your stuff. If you
> would like this tell my which url(s) to link to.
> I've been collecting your pics since number 01227.
> We both love your stuff and use it for slide shows. Everyone that sees
> our stuff loves it and we always take the opportunity to tell people
> about where we get our material, so your name, the 12hr project and what
> you do is mentioned regularly to anyone interested enough to come and
> talk to us during our performances.
> As well as keeping a copy of all 12hr jpegs in your original order I
> also keep a second set that I have categorised.
> My collection is currently:
> 79 recent ones that I haven't sorted yet plus 971 sorted into the
> following categories:
> 20  animals
> 151 blurs
> 118 buildings
> 75  faces
> 27  fairground centrifuge
> 17  fireworks
> 22  food
> 31  landscapes
> 33  landscapes industrial
> 18  mass production (bottles)
> 95  misc
> 25  misc domestic icons
> 41  misc modern icons
> 31  patterns (including dry earth)
> 42  people
> 57  people parts (inc. 20 ears, 6 feet, 19 hands)
> 42  reflection mixes (mostly trees through a window?)
> 51  roads
> 20  statues
> 25  trains
> 30  water
> We've made some wonderful avi movies with both solely your stuff and
> also mixed with other stuff.
> I'd be happy to cut a CD-ROM for you and post it to you FOC as a
> thankyou for your excellent project.
> Your newsgroup is the only one I stay permanently subscribed to.
> Keep up the excellent work.
> Many thanks
> :)

>From ---@memlane.com Tue Oct  3 19:15:55 2000
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 02:32:57
To: Triumph-of-Content-l@usc.edu
Subject: Re: intimate complicity

  {} wrote intimate complicity

> structure and composition of the artistic text and the way it 
> operates in 'cueing' the audience's response to the artifact,


The photographic act consists of entering this space
      of intimate complicity, not to master it,
         but to play along with it
                  and to demonstrate
                      that nothing has been decided
"What cannot be said
              must be kept silent."
              But what cannot be said
                       can also be kept silent
                                      through a display
                                         of images.
> The medium or process, of our time-electric technology is reshaping
> and restructuring patterns of social interdependence and every aspect
> of our personal life. It is forcing us to reconsider and reevaluate
> practically every thought, every action, and every institution
> formerly taken for granted. Everything is changing - you, your family,
> your neighborhood, your education, your job, your government, your
> relation to 'others.' And they're changing dramatically...
> Based on an analysis of the structure and composition of the artistic
> text and the way it operates in 'cueing' the audience's response to
> the artifact, neoformalism assumes an aesthetic dimension to artistic
> and literary texts. Neoformalism argues that form and content cannot
> be separated - that form is meaning. Because neoformalism does not
> seek to provide explanation for the author's motive or systemic
> dimensions of an artifact and its place in society, neoformalism is an
> exploratory approach - a place to begin the process of inquiry. The
> aim of the formalist method, or at least one of its aims, is not to
> explain the work, but to call attention to it, to restore that
> 'orientation towards form' which is characteristic of a work of art.
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>From ---@t-online.de Thu Oct 12 07:39:09 2000
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:40:45 +0200
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Nettime-bold] timebroker

Hi Brad,

I really tried hard to understand your project and use some 
downloadlinks, but there were alotto probs and no server conecction 

If you are interested I would ask you to describe your project to me 
a bit more simple.

Best greetings,

Nadja Franz.
fraufranz konzept & dezign
dipl des agd
Nadja Franz
Kanalstr. 42
24159 Kiel

fon/fax +49-431-3649757


>From ---@gallery.ca Fri Oct 13 16:53:42 2000
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:20:07 -0400
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Proposals from Halifax

Dear Brad:

I have included one of your books in an exhibition cuurently
on view in the National Gallery's Library.  I would like to
send you some copies of the brochure which was produced for
the occasion.  Andr Jodoin was good enough to give me your
email address when he stopped in to see the exhibition.

Best wishes,

Peter Trepanier
Head, Reader Services /Responsable, Services aux lecteurs
Library and Archives/Bibliothque et Archives
National Gallery of Canada/Muse des beaux-arts du Canada
380 Sussex Drive/380, promenade Sussex
P.O. Box 427, Sta. A/C.P. 427, Succ. A
Ottawa  ON  K1N 9N4

>From ---@aol.com Sat Oct 14 04:08:56 2000
Date: 14 Oct 2000 05:17:48 GMT
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: 04354.jpg [1/1] (12hr)
Newsgroups: hk.binaries.photo.photography

    I like your picture, I want you to think about selling your work, people
might want to buy your stuff. I am creating a new website, it consists of
Pro/ametuer art or photography. I am going to make it an Interactive museum.
where people can walk through my museum and look at things, they can buy art
from the artists , if the artists want to sell. But even if you don't want to
sell your art I can display it,,,,(If you want). I want you to know, I am not
licsensed to sell any reproduced art. I am just trying this new site with
ameteur art .And it is your decision if you want to sell anything. But I would
like you to send me Good stuff to put on my website.I need your help! If you
are Interested!

>From ---@mindspring.com Sun Oct 15 19:54:54 2000
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 12:27:48 -0400
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: Eberhard Faber pencils

Dear Sir, I saw your fascinating site while searching for my
favorite pencils. As a journalist, I have used only two
pencils over my long career Eagle Veriblack 315 and when I
could no longer find those, Eberhard Faber Jumbo pencils. 

Can you please let me know where I may order these pencils.

Best wishes,
Francis Giles

>From ---@ukonline.co.uk Tue Oct 17 18:46:07 2000
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:21:44 -0700
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: 04379.jpg [1/1] (12hr) - repost

what the fuck is it!??

>From ---@ACAD.FANDM.EDU Thu Oct 19 18:47:19 2000
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:10:02 -0400
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: yo

Yo, what the heck is the idea with all of the pencil pictures?  It doesn't
make sense that anyone would have that much time....

>From ---@ACAD.FANDM.EDU Fri Oct 20 06:55:54 2000
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:36:29 -0400
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: yo

I looked around, and I read some stuff, but I still can't figure out why?  Why?

>From ---@hotmail.com Tue Oct 24 07:10:26 2000
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:58:25 GMT
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Nice Project

Fuckin' wicked!!//[What now/next]-shine on[00100]



>From ---@online.ln.cn Wed Oct 25 18:03:36 2000
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:26:34 +0800
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: 04386.jpg [1/1] (12hr)


>From ---@clamm.it Wed Oct 25 18:19:21 2000
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:05:44 +0200
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@netcom.com>
Subject: ftp problem with your site

Dear Brad,
Today I'm experiencing problems with the URL

Is it a temporarily problem or things have been changed?

more congratulations for your snap shots
stay handsome
gian maria

   And if you think peace is a common goal that goes to
   show how little you know [The Death of A Disco Dancer - The Smiths]

Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:37:36 -0700
Subject: Proyecto ISBN JPEG

hi, brad,

i made isbn, the site of the day at the sputnik website.

and since we provide content for many sites, i expect you to get some extra
hits. thanks for joining the nettime-latino.

nos vemos en el futuro.

another wired news correspondent.

alguna vez soaste un borderhack?

>From ---@hn.vnn.vn Tue Oct 31 17:51:26 2000
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:45:52 -0000
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: Greetings from  Vietnam

Hi, I am a Hanoi artist
I want to drop by and say hello
I would be pleased if you just take a look at my new 
art site. Please give me your opinion! 
Would you like to
exchange links? The URL for my site is:

A Happy Hello and Good Day to You....

INVITATION : Exhibition of Artistphuong at Cafe 31 CuaDong-Hanoi

I am looking for a possibility to exhibit my artworks somewhere outsite my
country. I do hope to have contacts with someone and if possibly to have
cooperation. I think that surely will benefit
both of us

Bui Thanh Phuong

>From ---@aol.com Thu Nov  2 18:46:05 2000
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:48:29 EST
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: My site.

    I thought I would let you know, I put the site up on a free server right 
now so people can see it. www.geocities.com/mackindlay It seems the web host 
I signed up with was a con man. He took my money and shut down his site (I 
can't get a hold of them). This is a temporary address right now so people 
can look at it and decide if they want to be a part of it. The site is still 
under construction so some things will be changed and added to. The site is 
best viewed in 1024 by 768. Sorry about the stall.
I am wondering if you have anything you would like me to write about your 
photography? And also if you have a website you would like me to put a link 

Henry McKinley,

>From ---@visipix.com Thu Nov  9 18:05:01 2000
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:15:26 +0100
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: your pictures



We try to build a great picture gallery in the internet.

Now, 37.000 pictures are online. You can download

them in his-res 3000 x 2000 pixels.


See:  http://www.visipix.com/


In the next 12 months we plan to pubish 500.000



Could you be interested to join us with some of your



Best regards


Hannes Keller


(Click our "story" on our homepage) 

>From service@ccnow.com Thu Nov  9 19:26:41 2000
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:01:19 -0500 (EST)
Reply-To: ---@rhizome.org
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: Order Number 53- 475 from CCNow


                       CCNow Order Number:  53-475

    ID          Unit Price    Quantity              Description
 ---------     ------------  ----------   -----------------------------

  5                  $5.00        1        token - no print sent
  Subtotal:          $5.00

  GRAND TOTAL:       $5.00   << --------- U.S. Dollars

  Special Inst:  Hi Brad!

  Deliver To:

    NEW YORK, NY  10014

    Phone:        212 555 1212

    Cardholder:   MARK TRIBE
    E-mail:       ---@rhizome.org

   After you have shipped this order, please log in at  http://www.ccnow.com
   and click on "Pending Orders" to update our records and credit your account.

>From ---@visipix.com Thu Nov  9 19:56:59 2000
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:05:05 +0100
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: your pictures

Dear Visitor

Thanks for contacting visipix.com. The success is
overwhelming. We want to reply each mail personally. Please
accept our apologies if there is a delay. 

Yours truly,
Hannes Keller
Head of visipix.com

>From ---@aol.com Fri Nov 10 19:16:02 2000
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:54:01 EST
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: Carbon pencils?

I have been doing research for a teacher friend who wants to get a carbon 
pencil for a project:  one that is actually made of carbon.  Do you know, 
since you have so many pencils and some of them are called "carbon," whether 
any of them are actually carbon?  Everyone I talk to locally(Tampa area) has 
no idea what carbon is, try to say it's the same thing as charcoal, graphite, 
etc... Can you help?  Do you know?

Thank you!

Shoshana Shay

>From ---@architexturez.com Mon Nov 20 19:56:01 2000
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:43:01 +0000
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: christo-wrapped

 hi brad, as always, have been checking the 12hr
 images and enjoying your great eye for architectural
 photography. i've been saving your electrically-related
 ones in hopes of linking to your originals in an exhibit.
 saw today's photo 04447 and almost fell off my chair. i
 just scanned a dozen similar photos from a trip oversees
 of italian scaffolding that reminds me of a christo-wrapped
 object. will be putting them up very soon on a new website
 under the 'scaffolding' category and will send you the url
 before it is launched. still working on bugs, and one more
 major content update before a 12/00 launch schedule. i think
 your architectural photography should be compiled and shown
 on its own merits. this may be contrary to the spirit of the
 12hr project, but i think your photos are remarkable in this
 regard and deserve a concentrated look by those whom study
 and experience the built environment. still planning to meet.
 gauging if/when howard will be in town versus calling you
 beforehand. in any case, thanks for the inspiration. brian

>From ---@aol.com Sun Nov 26 08:12:40 2000
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:02:40 EST
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: The Art of Texas

The birding is wonderful--Central Flyway, Padre Island and all--but you 
should come during the Spring migration. There's an island down that way 
where all the migrating birds just fall from the sky exhausted after the Gulf 
of Mexico.

The two ladies I know are Grand Dames who might be able to introduce you to 
artistes if there are any down there.  You have to let me know a day or so in 
advance because it's quite a drive from Wonderful Waco.  The Grand Dames are 
about sixty or so, but they are two of my favo-rite gals in Texas, very much 

Your kind request about writing caused me to glow and give off sparks, since 
I have written nothing at all in six months.  So I spent the rest of the day 
getting serious, researching writing, realizing what a racket it is. 
Non-fiction is by specialists with a Phd in the field.  Fiction is a horrible 
funnel to romance novels very simply worded.  Poetry is for gift cards and 
thank you notes.  The horror vaccuii was filled with occult nightmares more 
stunningly lit than the initiation rite I busted in on the night before. 
(Were DrRam and the girl he was aiming ever surprised to see me crashing 
their mandala!) From there to many ideas, yellow wallpaper dancing this 
morning. You great shaman from the West Coast, Bubba Brace!  

Hope to really meet you!  I am a nice lady in real life, not CathB2.

Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:18:26 -0700
Cc: ---@newvenue.com
Subject: matchbook movies

Brad -

I'm just writing to let you know that the Aggressively Boring Film Festival
site will be going live next week. I'm going to send out a pre-announcement
to you and all of the filmmakers. There were over 70 entries and I've
decided to post pretty much all of the films, to really offer an assortment
of the type and style of film that people will be putting forth for p.d.a.s
in the near future.

That said, I want to offer a range of your matchbook movies on the site,
but I have set up a limit of 13 films, in part because there is a randomize
feature on the site and I want to make sure that all the filmmakers receive
their fair share of exposure. I'm sure you will agree to that reasoning.

FYI - There will be a link to your web site so that really interested
viewers can go and see the rest of the films in your series.

Hope you're having a good Thanksgiving weekend.


.. jason wishnow / http://www.newvenue.com / new movies for a new medium /

>From editor@ubu.com Thu Nov 30 18:37:28 2000
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:10:58 -0500
Reply-To: rumori@detritus.net
To: rumori@detritus.net
Subject: Re: [rumori] Pornolizer

Wow Brad. That's insanely beautiful!


> nah!
> http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/abstraction-engine.html


>From ---@gilanet.com Sun Dec  3 18:09:40 2000
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 23:42:14 -0700
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: Interested in your pinhole photos of the desert


I am not certain whom I am contacting yet.  I am a graphic
designer located in Silver City, New Mexico.  I am currently
building a web site for a client. I was browsing the net for
images for royalty free images and came across your site.  I
have a limite

d budget for images and was looking for images of the
desert.  I thought your pinhole photos of the desert were
beautiful and I would be interested in using one for the
site.  Would you be interested in selling limited usage
rights for one of your photos? 

  I don't want to get your hopes up.  My budget is very
limited, but I would love to be able to use one of you
pictures.  In particular I was interested in desert10-8,
desert10-18, desert10-20, or desert10-7.  I am refering to
the way they were labelled on the web site. 

Please contact me ASAP.  I need to settle this possibility
in a few days.  Thank you. 

Garth Gerstein
Phone: 505-538-0112

Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 05:35:58 +0800
From: suxianhong <---@suxianhong.51.net>
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: 04463.jpg [1/1] (12hr)

It's intresting.Thank you .

>From ---@jvormelker.com Sun Dec 31 17:46:57 2000
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:41:14 -0800
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: Newsgroup Postings

Have dried up.

Is there a problem that can be helped with?
-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
      Jim - 

>From ---@bazarin.com Sun Dec 31 17:55:25 2000
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:09:57 -0200
Subject: Wagner Bazarin Art Gallery - Holidays season

Dear brad brace:

One Day by Rupert Brooke

Today I have been happy.  All the day
 I held the memory of you, and wove
Its laughter with the dancing light o' the spray,
 And sowed the sky with tiny clouds of love,
And sent you following the white waves of sea,
 And crowned your head with fancies, nothing worth,
Stray buds from that old dust of misery,
 Being glad with a new foolish quiet mirth.

So lightly I played with those dark memories,
Just as a child, beneath the summer skies,
 Plays hour by hour with a strange shining stone,
For which (he knows not) towns were fire of old,
 And love has been betrayed, and murder done,
And great kings turned to a little bitter mould.

Today I have been happy.
I held the memory of you, ... and wish you success, health, and
Great Holidays season and a Happy New Year,

Wagner Bazarin
Art Gallery http://www.bazarin.com

>From ---@jvormelker.com Sun Dec 31 18:02:54 2000
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:51:49 -0800
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: back on track now 

Cool.  Didn't loose the faith.. just a bit concerned.

In a world where a generation occurs every 12 months, your longevity does
make you a bit of an institution. And I really do enjoy the work.
-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
      Jim -  ---@jvormelker.com

>From ---@earthlink.net Sun Dec 31 18:03:54 2000
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:26:51 -0700
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: 12hr project

hello mr.brace, where are you? is the 12hr project no more?
sincerely, david koch at www.modernkoch.com

>From ---@supereva.it Mon Jan  1 15:43:08 2001
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:07:19 +0100
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: 04497.jpg [1/1] (12hr)

Have you got some more pictures ?
Schievenin Igor

>From ---@blackfoot.net Fri Jan  5 18:11:12 2001
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:08:32 -0700
Subject: Eberhard Faber NoBlot Ink Pencil 705

Hi.  I stumbled across your web site and saw a listing for
the Eberhard Faber NoBlot Ink Pencil 705.  Do you know where
they can be purchased.  I have a customer who uses them for
marking logs. 

Your help would be appreciated.

Robin Creglow
Seeley Lake Computing
PO Box 1099
3027 Hwy 83 North - Lazy Pine Mall
Seeley Lake MT 59868
(406) 677-2545

>From ---@scribble.com Sun Jan  7 20:06:06 2001
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 00:59:22 -0800 (PST)
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: 12hr jpeg on sito.org

i made a few behind-the-scenes adjustments on sito, and now your
recently added "artchive" entry about the 12hr jpeg project is
no longer the logo...  i have made it so the image is updated
every 12 hours.

congratulations, you are the first owner of an automatically
updating artchive image on sito.  !?


NOW USE: ---@scribble.com * http://scribble.com/jon/ *
sito.org * gracies.org
    "If I had never seen any other movie before, that would have
     been the best movie I had ever seen!"  -- ed lon sito

i felt it was a small homage to make to such a staple of internet
art... a long-standing awesome project.

NOW USE: ---@scribble.com * http://scribble.com/jon/ *
sito.org * gracies.org
On a relationship's end: "It's not so much the hate as the humility." -UWI014

>From ---@www.editeverything.com Thu Jan 11 17:51:10 2001
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:19:39 -0500 (EST)
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [extreme] UPDATE: The 12hr ISBN-JPEG Project

very cool!

I put it on the extreme NY calendar too (it gets a wider readership...)
You might be interested in it


>From ---@artcluster.com Fri Jan 12 18:14:05 2001
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:11:27 +0100
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Your link has been added to 'ArtCluster'.

Dear colleage,

A link to your site has been added to ArtCluster's link-collection.
ArtCluster has the ambition to build a small collection of linx with high 
quality art. No ugly  banners with screaming colors, no webrings loaded 
with ugliness.
After careful consideration we have made a links list of sites which in our 
opinion contain 'high quality art'.
http://www.teleport.com/~bbrace/bbrace.html  is on that list, which you can 
find on the linx page of http://www.artcluster.com/ (click the 'linx' - 
button). If you would prefer a different name/description of your site let 
us know and we will adjust it as soon as possible. Suggestions for other 
sites are very welcome also.

We believe that good sites like ours should support each other in a world 
where mediocrity rules. We would appreciate it when you link back to 
http://www.artcluster.com/.  If you prefer a text-link we suggest 
"ArtCluster - Virtual artgalleries & whiteboard" as a description. And if 
you are feeling generous and you would consider an image link you can find 
more specific link information at

Congratulations with your great site. Keep up the good work !

Regards, Krogius Huss, aka Taco, webmaster ArtCluster.

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:20:34 EST
From: ---@aol.com
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: I know what!

They left it there to signal Antarres, and took the first ship out of Marfa 
headed for Loch Ness.


>From ---@thepipeline.net Wed Jan 17 17:07:58 2001
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:20:05 -0500
Subject: Thanks for Bracelli

Dear Bruce,

Thanks for your pages -- and especially for posting the work of your
ancestor, Giovanni Battista Bracelli. That's how I came to your page.

At Arisia last weekend -- it's an annual science fiction/fantasy
convention in Boston -- I asked Polish/French Artist Guest of Honor
Wojtek Siudmak about his influences. First in line was Caravaggio, but
after that Bracelli. I'd never heard of him; don't believe any of the
other spectators at Siudmak's slide show had either.

He explained (in French, via translator) that Bracelli was a 17th
century Italian proto-surrealist engraver. Told us about his projects
like the carpenter made of drawers. And said that Dali had taken much
from Bracelli, but usually without acknowledging the debt.

When I searched the net today, though, Bracelli pickings were
extremely slim. Yours was the only place I could find an actual series
of works. Now if only I could figure out Bracelli's dates and locale,
so I could put them in the convention newsletter I'm writing ...

Anyway, thanks much for contributing to the rich, crazy diversity of
the net!


Bob Devney
North Attleboro, Massachusetts, U.S.A.

>From ---@compuserve.de Tue Jan 23 17:05:44 2001
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:28:57 +0100
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: (12hr) continuous serial imagery (12hr)

Do you know something about art and therapie ?
much thanks

so long Harald

>From ---@ca.ua.pt Fri Jan 26 07:05:46 2001
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:35:01 +0000
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: 4EAD Conference

Dear Brad Brace

We apologize for our delayed notification, but the review
Committee works lasted longer than expected due to the
quantity and quality of submissions.

The review committee for the "desire designum design | 4 EAD
conference" has decided not to accept your abstract: 

The 12-hour ISBN JPEG Project

You can see the result of the reviewing process in the
attached evaluation form.
Thank you, once again, for your contribution, and we would
like that in future events we can follow new developments of
your research. 

Looking forward to see you in Aveiro, 

Prof. Vasco Branco
Conference organizing committee chair

Title.  : A'round-the-Clock, posting of sequenced
hypermodern imagery Author(s) : Brad Brace

Evaluation (scale 5=Excellent, 1=poor)

Does the abstract/paper properly address a topic relevant to
this EAD conference? (see call for papers)    2
How do you rate the originality/novelty of this
abstract/paper? 	2					
How important a contribution does this abstract/paper
present?	2 					   
How do you rate the English? 					5
What is your overall judgement of this abstract/paper? 		1
What is your recommendation (acceptance for the
conference)?	2
How do you classify your expertise in the Subject domain?	2
Choose the topic (or topics, maximum 3) in which you include
this contribution, marking with [x] one of the choices

1.[ ] design identities	2.[ ] design theory
3.[ ] design education
4.[ ] design management	5.[ ] strategic design		
6.[ ] eco/environmental design 
7.[ ] gender issues	8.[ x] practice-based research	
9.[ ] Other. Which? [ ]

>From ---@hwsgallery.com Fri Jan 26 17:40:43 2001
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:46:43 -0700
To: The HWS Gallery Weekly <HWSGalleryWeekly@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [HWSGalleryWeekly] 01/26/00


A Newsletter for Artisans and Patrons of the Arts

           Edited by Spydir K Bentley


Copyright  2001, Brad Brace
All rights reserved

EDITOR'S NOTE:  For more detailed
information about this exhibition,
send inquiries directly to Brad Brace
at bbrace@netcom.com

Pointless Hypermodern Imagery...
posted/mailed every 12 hours...
a spectral, trajective alignment for
the 90`s! A continuum of minimalist
masks in the face of catastrophe;
conjuring up transformative metaphors
for the everyday... A poetic
reversibility of exclusive
events...  More...


The HWS Gallery Weekly   Vol.3 Issue 04
Copyright  2001 HWS Gallery  All Rights Reserved.
HWS GALLERY "Where creativity has a permanent home"

>From ---@aol.com Fri Jan 26 17:58:02 2001
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:22:00 EST
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: oh my,

 quite taken with the pencil palace is limns.

>From ---@stockstar.com Thu Mar  1 17:34:51 2001
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:32:34 +0800 
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: 04551.jpg [1/1] (12hr)

what this?

>From ---@nyu.edu Fri Mar  9 19:19:44 2001
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:35:18 -0500 (EST)
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: xoox


i did check out your quicktimes, well xoox kept crashing (could be that a
corruption occured during my download), but xoox2 was quite nice. its
silence is particularly effective. apparently the same occurs in Nice,


>From ---@eroplay.com Sun Mar 18 06:17:45 2001
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:58:12 -0800
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>

    interesting art!

>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 08:08:48 +0000
>Subject: 12hr
>From: brian carroll <---@architexturez.com>
>Mime-version: 1.0
> brad, i laughed at your photo of
>1909 today. not that i think it is
> funny, but brilliant. and it makes
> me laugh, as your photos can be
> both humorous and dark, abstract
> and starkly realistic. in any case,
> a type of title came into my brain
> after seeing this one:
> photo-archaeologist
> brian

English text is following teh fench one : ;-)

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                            Hello from the snow belt.


These individuals, Hey my name is a-z, I'm new to the Internet, could you 
help me and some of my friends out?

My friends Lisa, Dawn, Lori, Beth and I just started College and are doing 
this to get us through alphanumeric.

We just put up some web pages and are not really sure if it's good.  Can 
you check it out and let me know what you think? We don't know if you like 
ascii's (about 30 pics of that), or just plain without any 9-0 (About 50 of 
that), Lisa and Lori did some z-a stuff cause they are dating, and me and 
Lori have a little text with our sex!  :-)

Please tell me the truth, as I really, really, really, want to make it on 
the Internet! These chains of descriptive prose interest me.

ascii a-z 0-9 9-0 z-a text! order your body w/o organs now !

<a href="http://pleine-peau.com/members/julie">Click here to see!</a>

removeme@sex.com to be removed.

-- This project has not received 9-0 art-subsidies. Some
opportunities still exist for financially assisting the publication of a
CD-ROM archive of sequenced ascii imagery. There's some
possibility of editions of large a-z. Other supporters receive rare
0-9 of the first three alphanumeric printed SPAM-Books.

-- Please no mail bombs, LEGIT removal.

J'ai le plaisir de vous faire part Hello,
                                           sorry for cross-posting >>>>>>>
 >>>> 0-9
**** asco-o 'alphanumeric' not recognized.
 >>>> Tom spam Over the past few weeks I've sent out a couple of
texts, >>>>>>>> text
**** asco-o 'ascii' not recognized.
 >>>> alphanumeric Nezvanova     - r!ch.sex+edukated

                                         Best to all in 200x,


Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:38:32 -0500
From: Laurie McKenna <---@web-edit.com>
Subject: Re: your mail

regardless of desert trailer park I thought you might want to take a 
look at my site.
it is in fledgling stage
  I really admire your work.
>From rsubramaniam@ArtsInternational.org Tue Mar 27 05:57:13 2001

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:22:41 -0500
From: Radhika Subramaniam <---@ArtsInternational.org>
To: '{ brad brace }' <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: RE: contribution

Dear Mr. Brace,

Thank you for submitting your artwork for consideration in the second issue
of Connect on Technology.  It was one among several fine submissions we
received but unfortunately, we are unable to include it in this issue.
Please know that the decision was based on a range of editorial concerns and
difficult to make.

We appreciate your considering Connect as a venue for your work and hope you
will keep us in mind again in the future.

With best wishes for your future endeavours,


Radhika Subramaniam
Executive Editor, Connect
Arts International
251 Park Avenue South
New York NY 10010-7302
Tel. (212) 674-9744 ext. 108
Fax. (212) 674-9092
Web: www.artsinternational.org/connect

Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:12:25 +0200
From: Josephine Bosma <---@xs4all.nl>
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: interview

hi Brad

Would you mind doing an e-terview? 



>From ---@iserv.net Wed Apr  4 17:52:45 2001
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:36:15 -0400
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: Eberhard Faber NoBlot Ink pencil 705

Hello:  Appreciate your site. Do you know where I could
purchase some of the above brand of indelible pencils? 
Thanks for any help, Mike Denty ---@iserv.net

Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:03:23 EDT
From: ---@aol.com
Subject: signum feature...

hello brad, my name is amy jarrell and i work on an online
zine called SIGNUM (www.signumpress.com) ... i am in charge
of the "freezone" section, which means that i'm constantly
seeking out worthy artists to highlight in each issue. the
editor is tiffany lee brown... 

 you may know her from the well... she is a writer for Wired
and Bookforum as well.  we just started releasing this zine
monthly, and i was wondering if you would be interested in
being the artist that we showcase for the next issue. 

please let me know if this sounds like something you'd be
interested in and i'll give you more information on the
"freezone" section of signum. 

best regards, ::: amy jarrell


Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:51:10 +0800
From: China Best International Ltd <---@netvigator.com>
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: 04699.jpg [1/1] (12hr)

You are cary and mental

Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:22:17 +0200
From: Josephine Bosma <---@xs4all.nl>
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: questions


this morning I learned you forward our correspondence to rhizome. That
means our conversation is hereby over.


{ brad brace } wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Josephine Bosma wrote:
> > hi Brad
> >
> > Well, it is hard to say whether I know enough of your work, and that is
> > exactly the reason I want to as you a few things. I'll just ask some
> > things and lets see how it goes. As you might know I like to ask simple
> > questions, especially when the topic or subject is difficult   ;) Don't
> > take that as an insult please. These questions are a start, so I will
> > formulate others on your answers.
> >
> >
> > 1. Whats your education and how does this and other things in your
> > background relate to/influence your work ?
> I've a ridiculous amount of often-disappointing (primarily) arts-education
> (even a MFA *shudder*)  -- I've studiously attempted to assist in
> reforming (antiquated/entrenched) art-teaching institutions. I still have
> hope.
> In addition to teaching, consulting, occasional/informal exhibitions and
> some financial art-support online
> <http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/buy-into.html>, I often find engaging
> employment and sustainable income with printing/publishing industries
> (electronic prepress) and new media.
> > 2. What is the most important aspect of the 12hr project for you, and is
> > this aspect supported by the, for want of a better term, 'monotony' or
> > 'slowness' of the work?
> Hmmm... I'd have to say it's the open, accessible sense of
> encompassing/shifting continuity... which is why I previously mentioned
> microtonal music as a possible corollary. But see
> <http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/12hr-isbn-jpeg.html> for a fuller
> description/response.
> > 3. Do you feel your work is in any way related to mail art?
> ... Only in so far as correspondence art is about informal networks and
> independent production and dissemination of multiples.
> > 4. You agitate against the artworld and any branche or relation of it a
> > lot. I find this kind of odd, since you are quite present in on line
> > communities or mailinglists engaged in art. What is this love/hate
> > relationship with art for you?
> What positive things can any (non-institutionalized) artist have to say
> about the openly abusive, unrepentant, manipulative, swindling,
> self-serving, reprehensible old-Artworld... Where else but online would
> our objections be heard and 'alternatives' embraced? We love art/artists
> and will not lazily/silently see them abused/thwarted.
> > These are the first ones. let me know if you have any trouble at all
> > with them. hope we make something good.
> Tell me something about you Josephine.

On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Josephine Bosma wrote:

> > clearly there are aspects of it that we can't readily discuss. Many people
> > have been following along for years: our exchanges are of course, somewhat
> > different.
> that will always be the case. There are many kinds of interviews. With
> my interview you can be sure your work will open up to many people, as a
> lot of people know it as much or less as/then me.

Josephine: I suppose that interviews may have that function. Interest in
the 12hr-project tends to expand mostly from the viewers themselves rather
than depending on (the old artworld's) insular, hierarchical validation
and critically fashionable recommendations. I still find it curious, if
not just plain rude, that I'm recently approached to do interviews by
people who can't be bothered to view the work that they wish to discuss! I
assume, as old institutions and their proponents now decide to come
online, that they bring-along their old incestuous attitudes and presumed

However, I'll answer your initial questions...

I'd appreciate a response to _my question about connections with
microtonal music -- this is an area I'd like to explore in the interview.


From: Kate Monro <---@extend.com>
To: '{ brad brace }' <bbrace@eskimo.com>

we invited you because we think the isbn project is pretty cool, but is it a
by-product of work ?

when you say a live link to the "slow-stream" what do you mean?

Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:53:29 -0700
From: furtherfield <---@furtherfield.org>
To: list@rhizome.org
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: "Give it a chance!"

Hello Josephine,

I noticed your email below published on Rhizome.org &
thought to my- self, well Brad has a point that many
contemporary artists are keen to actively deny. 

The other thing is, why? Like I am doing publicly, have you
thought it important to declare Brad's response to your
questions for everyone to see in a context which seems
(forgive me if I am wrong) detrimental to the him. As an
artist/creator surely that individual has a right in how
they are represented in the media. Make no mistake, Rhizome
is just as much part of the media world even though it is
not necessarily openly saying it is.  I'm sure that you are
well aware of this fact.

It seems to me that Brad's work speaks for itself, which in
a way is what he was trying to say. Please look at my work
for it speaks for itself!

Because he does not (consciously) desire to use the accepted
language process of the interview format is surely his
decision thus making him seem wrong and paranoid in the eyes
of others. Those of course who use that language will be
accepted more readily because they are less likely to
challenge the intentions of that individual/organization

I respect of your opinion and feelings on the situation
mentioning how uncomfortable you felt trying to interview
him. Brad was wrong to presume that you alone are an
institution. In a sense his beef is not with you, it^s the

arena that you are presently moving into or are part of. 
Your choice of who you are interviewing I presume has come
about through searching for interesting underground talent
on the net, those who have not had plenty of coverage
already. Enriching the already growing creative Internet
environment and its varied contributions to the world.

His work and ideas are on the line here, and I have not
always agreed with Brad's sentiments and some of them I
have. Personally he has always inspired me (he does not know
me by the way) as some one who is prepared to go against the
art arena's presumptions and question their intentions. This
is very important, and sometimes more valid than some art
itself.  For it is to do with the fundamental state of
creativity itself and who owns it. We are all creating
history here whether we are aware of this consciously or
not, and if he is left out of it due to dislike or mutual
posturing it would be a shame.

(He treats me, single mum and free lance writer without
connection to any organization or even publisher, as an
institution. I wish some artists would see how even being a
rebel needs some kind of idea and insight in how to go about

His answers are valid and should be taken on in the spirit
of creative questioning. He does not dare to say that he has
all the right answers to all the issues that he is bravely
putting himself on the line for, his reasoning is
subjective, and perhaps not immediately acceptable. 

I recall when at a certain next '5 minutes' conference
'Hakim Bey' was openly criticizing the many delusory
functions of the Internet. And he got almost booed by the
mob gang of Internet reliant contingency. I looked around me
and thought, mmm interesting a god has just been criticized
here (the Internet)  and all the invented hopes and dreams
with it. One mistake that anyone, and many individuals do,
is not to see the spirit of a gesture that is honest in its

action, no matter how out of place it might seem. 


Virtually all organizations known to you work largely by
means of your greed. They attract you because what they say
or do appeals to your greed. This is concealed only by their
appearance. If you stop listening

to their words and look at the effect, you will soon see it. 
Idris Shah. ^Learning how to Learn^. 

This is where Brad is coming from, he sees and dislikes what
others see and accept. 

In respect to his open & public critizism of Heath Bunting,
well...  Heath can handle it. I'm a good friend of Heath's
and we used to do alot agit-art in good ol' days together
and are still in regular contact. As Heath nows, he is being
attacked by someone who see's him as part of an institution,
someone going through the historical process of trying to
topple their throned father.  A function that Heath & I used
to talk about a lot 'killing your father'. A kind of right
of passage that I myself do not adhere to. 

So I am thanking you both really for giving me something
very interesting to think about. And I hope that Brad will
do you another interview for you, if he asks for it that is.
It looks like that you both got started on the wrong footing
- respect to both. 

Marc Garrett


Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:14:35 -0700
From: ---@eskimo.com
Subject: How are you?



Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:43:33 -0700
From: fifine brightman <---@lvcm.com>
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: great pictures

Your artwork is wonderful!! I like it because it is very
different than the other stuff out there. I want to use some
of your pictures on my web page. Also, I would like to link
to you. How often do you change your images?

Do you still take these kinds of photos? They have a certain
other-worldly quality about them, like dreams. Maybe you
would like to see my page when it is finished? lt should be
up within the next couple of weeks. 

Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 01:06:19 EDT
From: ---@aol.com
To: bbrace@netcom.com
Subject: It's yours. Really it is

I found this on laughingsquid & mayhaps I'll go lookin for a
random shape disassembler to help put the thing back
together. Perhaps it's folks in a hall under a chandelier or
maybe a ceiling fan. Granted it's only my second time to
your site but.. I was hopin you could shine some light upon
the "gray matter" here. 

Thanks for your time

Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 06:44:16 -0800
From: brian carroll <---@architexturez.com>
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Wave of destruction

 hi brad, thanks for the forwarded article on homemade emp weapons.
 i think i sent the same article to the e-list, but i forget. in
 any case, i cannot send to it now, as i am considered a spammer
 and my IP number is blocked by topica.com, so i cannot even mail
 them for tech support. someone fucked with me it seems. in any
 case, wanted to say your 12hr photos have been like an oracle
 to me, of late. some quite interesting photos, as usual, but
 also in tune with the edge of daily life. hope you are surviving.
\ brian

Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:42:57 -0400
From: Yvonne Leonard <---@hargray.com>
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: print collab info pls

I was looking through some of your material.  It would be
good to have you as part of this project if you are
interested.  I want this folio to be both intellectually and
visually solid but not necessarily a hoary academic exercise
. Would it be difficult to reconcile the academic
preponderence of the Southern Graphics Council with your
feelings about the artworld? Even more reason to have you on
   I hope you will submit a proposal.  If the "hand-pulled" 
requirement is a problem we could work around it.  Regards,

Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:32:01 -0400
From: "Ian C. Boulton" <---@utoronto.ca>
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: The 12hr ISBN-JPEG Project

Hi Brad,

The ISBN-JPEG project sounds fascinating.
I would love to contribute some of my work - how about it?
If you are interested I'll happily send you some samples.

Regards Ian C. Boulton

{ brad brace } wrote:

>                     _______ _            __ ___  _
>                    |__   __| |          /_ |__ \| |
>                       | |  | |__   ___   | |  ) | |__  _ __
>                       | |  | '_ \ / _ \  | | / /| '_ \| '__|
>                       | |  | | | |  __/  | |/ /_| | | | |
>                       |_|  |_| |_|\___|  |_|____|_| |_|_|
>            _____  _____ ____  _   _            _ _____  ______ _____
>           |_   _|/ ____|  _ \| \ | |          | |  __ \|  ____/ ____|
>             | | | (___ | |_) |  \| |______    | | |__) | |__ | |  __
>             | |  \___ \|  _ <| . ` |______|   | |  ___/|  __|| | |_ |
>            _| |_ ____) | |_) | |\  |     | |__| | |    | |___| |__| |
>           |_____|_____/|____/|_| \_|      \____/|_|    |______\_____|
>                        |  __ \         (_)         | |
>                        | |__) | __ ___  _  ___  ___| |_
>                        |  ___/ '__/ _ \| |/ _ \/ __| __|
>                        | |   | | | (_) | |  __/ (__| |_
>                        |_|   |_|  \___/| |\___|\___|\__|
>                                       _/ |
>                                      |__/

Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:46:03 EDT
From: ---@aol.com
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Walk over waves?


I know full well you are really Blackhawk.  I also  suspect you of 
insinuating the minicam ad, not to mention suspicious AOL promotional 
banners.  The Phantom of the Opera at the mammogram parlor--that is really 
too much, however. Just wait until you make your next visit to the Happy 
Buddha gastroenterologist. Remember the curse of the Farrahs?


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:41:07 EDT
From: ---@aol.com
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: Photojourneyman

I am on to other Guide books.  However, don't forget that state law 
enforcement officials take a dim view of artists who continually mess with 

I, for one, am intending to write you a citation. I think I'll do my Master's 
Project on you, Bill Viola and Naumann.  Marc America has been begging me to 
do him, but my plate is full.


 In his book "The End of Time," published to coincide with

 the millennium, Dr. Julian Barbour, an independent physicist and Einstein

 scholar in England, argues that the universe consists of a stack of

 moments, like the cards in a deck, that can be shuffled and reshuffled

 arbitrarily to give the illusion of time and history.

 The Big Bang is just another card in this deck, along with every other

 moment, forever part of the universe. "Immortality is here," he writes in

 his book. "Our task is to recognize it."

Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:52:14 -0700
From: Stewart Dickson <---@disney.com>
To: { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: 12hr update


You found me.  Cool!

You've been at this a long time, haven't you?
> "...The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project..."

I remember you from probably close to 8 years ago.

Still no visible means of support, eh?

Me too.



# Stewart Dickson                         (818)526-3423 / (818)526-3324
(FAX) #
# Walt Disney Feature Animation, 500 S Buena Vista St, Burbank, CA
91521-8965 #

Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:24:59 -0600
From: Mary Scott <---@home.com>
To: bbrace@eskimo.com
Subject: hi

hi brad brace, came upon your site through rhizome...great time going
through all your projects, etcetera. hello from calgary and other folks
you know: bill and carol macdonell.
mary scott

The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project                >>>> since 1994 <<<<

+ + +         serial           ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/b/bbrace
+ + +      eccentric          ftp://ftp.idiom.com/users/bbrace
+ + +     continuous       ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/bbrace
+ + +    hypermodern      ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace
+ + +        imagery   ftp://ftp.pacifier.com/pub/users/bbrace

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