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I believe that the misuse of these terms is tied to industry jargon. However it is not the computer science industry, but the financial sector. At least in here in New York many new tech start ups are funded by both private VC money and government money (both city and state allocated toward creating new jobs and stirring up interest 'in the scene' - the goal is to 'bring manufacturing back to New York'). Often this money is distributed by people who are are unfamiliar with the technologies - they're business-people not engineers, and so artificial intelligence/blockchain/etc act as buzz words that attract investment funds and create a buffer from needing those who approve funds fully understand your product. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On March 25, 2018 4:48 AM, Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org> wrote: > > > dear olia, > > On Sat, 24 Mar 2018, olia lialina wrote: > > > But leaving singularity and naive me aside... this change in jargon > > > > is more than a trend. Meaningless, inconsistent, but persistent > > > > substitute of computational terms, processes and products with "AI" > > > > is how IT industry is protecting themselves from > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_explanation > > I believe is not just a protective attitude if you consider it always > > comes with a fanfare of "innovation" and "e-culture" and "cultural > > industries" scams then is easy to realise these are aggressive > > stances. > > > and any other attempts to ask questions. AI noise is how silicon > > > > valley is working on alibi, getting ready to shift the blame for > > > > everything what goes wrong onto "emancipated machine intellect". I > > > > am sure we will here this argument in court. > > After a few more desasters I agree this will all be debated in court > > rather than in labs. In my recent publication I've dedicated a fair > > amount of attention on the subject, connected to Caroline Nevejan's > > studies on "trusthwortiness" when she wrote already in 2007: > > Information and Communication technologies facilitate a transcending > > of time and place by mediating presence and permit a different scale > > of tracking and tracing and a different scale in collecting and > > distributing of information and communication than natural presence > > facilitates. Doing so, information and communication technologies > > also facilitate the taking of a moral distance, because of the way > > presence is designed through these technologies. > > This is where we need to let biopolitics back inside the room. This is > > the path along which we can observe how violence is transferred by a > > sort of biopolitical equation into a mechanic domain where the > > responsibility is not anymore a moral question for humans. > > Algorithms and their buzzword alibis (AI, blockchain, IoT, etc.) are > > serving a mediation of moral principles connected to the teological / > > philosophical role that pre-determination had in history - or if you > > like a more materialistic approach here they are simply adopted to > > mediate violence. > > I am not surprised many policy makers today are desperately calling > > for "social good" uses of such "innovations", but I'm afraid such > > reformist efforts may be wasted until we see a significant investment > > for a sort of "Fletcher Memorial Home" (cit. Pink Floyd) where to host > > Silicon Valley's computational ideologists in an environment where > > they cannot harm others. Perhaps we shall call it a "sandbox". > > ciao > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Denis Roio a.k.a. 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