Armin Medosch on Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:11:44 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> Claire Bishop’s Game: Sub |
Hi, it is indeed perplexing that Bishop manages to write a pretty good book about participation whilst leaving out any mentioning of media art or digital art or whatever you call it. I do not concur however, that this is the main problem. It is equally problematic, as David does, to perpetuate this thinking in camps and then once more sullenly remark how unfair it is that the art world keeps leaving "us" out. I think a bit more self-criticism of the digital art scene is overdue. Maybe there are other reasons rather than just ignorance why those curators tend to think that this is a place where they don't even have to look? A lot of digital art is simply, to paraphrase Herbert Marcuse's term "affirmative digital culture" (tentative title of a piece I hope to write in the not too far future). One needs to have pretty good overview and knowledge of the digital art scene to know that there is also a critical leftwing in this field. Those leftwingers are, within the digital art scene, outsiders, don't have much of a voice or institutions. So, established curators like Bishop can be forgiven for not looking enough in that direction. Rather than raising accusations it would be our task - when I say our, I mean those with an interest in non-affirmative digital arts -- to educate those elements in the art scene who might be open to such suggestions. My experience also is that something has changed in recent years. There are now younger artists, curators and scholars in the contemporary art world who have no fear of engaging with computers and the net. It is now quite naturally part of their environment, and they don't perform such exclusions as insinutaed by thsoe who thimk in camps. In the institutional art system, now the big retrospectives of postwar modernistic avant-gardes are rolling in. Zero, Black Mountain College, E.A.T, these are all precursors of media art. It remains to be seen how the mainstream art world now deals with those huge topics but it is interesting that these types of movements / places / initiatives are becoming part of the canon. The media art world, to quote Darko Fritz, still suffers "amnesia international." http://darkofritz.net/text/bitomatik_Fritz_eng.pdf There exists the conference series Media Art Histories, but it suffers from chronic depoliticization of subjects and it perpetuates this thinking in camps which leaves media art incapable of addressing its own shortcomings. For instance, media art has, for a very long time, defined participation in merely technical terms, as "interactive art". It still kept doing so, holding up interactive art as a symbol of a shining future, when actually everywhere around participaton had become a new imperative, from top down - the latter something that Bishop points out in Artificial Hells. This would be some really interesting sub-thread to explore, how it came that participation changed from a demand of the grassroots left to something imposed from the top by third-way social democrats. Aspects of such work have been carried out, in relation to urban development, by an initiative called The London Particular who had links with Mute magazine. Having said that, Josephine Berry's review of Bishop's book. the Ghosts of Participation, is something I can only warmly recommend http://www.metamute.org/editorial/articles/ghosts-participation-past The best bit is, when Josephine accuses Bishop of lacking theoretical spine. Maybe, Jospehine, you might want to elaborate? best regards Armin -- Prof.Armin Medosch, PhD, MA Professor of Theory and History of Art and Media, Faculty of Media and Communications, Singidunum University, Belgrade http://www.fmk.singidunum.ac.rs/ Research Journal http://www.thenextlayer.org/ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org