Re: <nettime> NSA-spying-on-Europe outrage somewhat disingenuous

[Brian Holmes <bhcontinentaldrift@gmail.com>]

On 07/02/2013 08:32 PM, Marko Peljhan wrote:

> Here in the US, more than half of the public opinion does not care much
> about the fact that all of our communications and patterns are being
> gathered and stored...it is an incredible reaction.

Ah ha, but the beauty is in the other half, no?

I mean, don't get me wrong, whenever I hear anyone of any nationality 
accepting massive surveillance as a fait accompli or worse, a 
"necessity," I not only despise them but also feel dark pessimism deep 
in my bones.

However the "mainstream" since 2011 is divided, the other half - which 
percent I am not sure - has an increasingly good basic knowledge of 
what's happening and is increasingly against it. Traveling around the 
world, Claire and I used to be impressed how much more just about 
anybody we would meet in the former East or Latin America knew about the 
global hierarchy than "our fellow Americans." Well, it is still true, 
but thanks to hacker and other efforts - and thanks to the visible naked 
power and greed of said hierarchy - things are changing.

I just say, let's change them some more. Nobody has to to teach you all 
how to be disabused, nor how to put out the facts and the perspectives 
that give facts meaning. Onward, then.

best, Brian-the cup-at-least-has-something-in-it,-no?-Holmes


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