Carl Guderian on Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:18:21 +0200 (CEST)

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Re: <nettime> Peter Lamborn Wilson, in all his splendid rurality

I don't entirely agree. The complaints are legitimate,
and a needed reminder; the TAZ is a social technology
(prosthesis?), and like any technology it isn't an
automatic good, let alone the Revolution. 

He's right about the Amish and post-Anabaptists. If
they can collectively assimilate a technology, they
let it in--sometimes under quarantine--it's not all
horses and rakes, as most people think. WIRED did a
piece on this a year or two ago. Telephones, and even
cell phones are allowed but kept in outbuildings. 

That's a great policy. Not every technology is needed
to keep the earth able to carry 6.5 billion
people(going on 15 billion). Individually, how many
hours did you work to buy that iPOD? In the end,
Wilson and Sterling agree. You should have some idea
of the life story of everything you buy. Where did it
come from? Where will it end up? Not just how much it
costs me, but how much it costs everybody else. Bruce
just covers the environmental end of those questions.

Is a blobby, spinach-powered sports car so great if it
costs you longer hours at your crappy job, or some
Chinese woman has to assemble it in a cloud of
pancreas-scraping gas just so you (not her) can afford

Does a week at Burning Man justify 51 weeks working
for the Multinational Man?

The Empire never died and those questions never went


on the 38th of Cunegonde (after they changed the

--- Bruce Sterling <> wrote:

> *I wondered what Peter had been up to, lately.
> Now, I know.  My, is he grumpy.
> bruces
> Title: Jennifer Bleyer. In conversation with Peter
> Lamborn
> Wilson
> Date: Tuesday July 27 2004, @12:37PM
> Author:	nolympics
> Topic:Rants
> from the chicken-and-egg dept.

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