Ivo Skoric on Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:38:07 +0200 (CEST) |
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<nettime> Re: Ongoing Dutch Srebrenica Blues ... |
I think everybody was surprised by the ferocity and speed of the horrendous atrocities committed against Bosnian Muslim men of Srebrenica by the advancing Serbian irregulars under the command of Ratko Mladic. I think "international community" as a whole is a bunch of surprised people. For them atrocities like Srebrenica are something that happened in Europe in 12th century. They simply missed to notice the modus operandi of the Greater Serbian Time Machine under Slobodan Milosevic, which succesfully drove the whole nation 600 years into the past, to repair all the wrongs, to drive the proverbial Turks out of the Balkans NOW as they have failed to do so centuries ago. On the other hand, I am still surprised that Dutch government resigned over Srebrenica. Why do Dutch insist on their guilt? They certainly share the blame - but what about French? what about the US? what about the UN? then, of course, the Serbs actually did the killing, yet they still behave as if their role in the massacres was somehow minor compared to the Dutch and French... and even the Izetbegovic's government can be found culpable in Srebrenica case, since he was unwilling both to withdraw from Srebrenica and to commit to protecting it. So, why do Dutch insist on their principal guilt there? It is hard to prove what Sacirbey is saying. All that backroom deals are hearsay. But then HE is the one to know about them. It is not a question about him being a reliable source. It is a question of him saying this NOW, a decade after the massacres. What was he waiting for? Bildt is generally hated by everybody in former Yugoslavia. But he is safely out of the way. Perhaps, he is very tired himself. Such a deal could look like him, based on the rest we know of him. The fact that he was ready to concede to the most powerful contestant in the region (Serbs) in order to secure peace, is well documented. It is also the reason why he is not well liked by Croats and Bosnians. Holbroke, on the other hand, doesn't look at first like someone who would endorse that deal. The US was a champion of the Bosnian Muslim cause, wasn't it? But Holbroke was looking for a deal. And enclaves were a big obstacle to drawing a cease fire border between the warring parties, achieved at Dayton under his watch. Furthermore, the satellite pictures of the mass graves created by Serbs after they over-run Srebrenica, released by CIA, were the turning point in the US media treatment of the Bosnia topic. Maybe, Holbroke suspected the massacres would happen, providing a good photo- op for his agenda? It is understandable why Sacirbey would turn against Holbroke now. While he is still deceptively handsom, Sacirbey just spent many months in a US prison. For no particular reason at all. Long detentions without trial, formerly a hallmark of the rogue regimes, in post-9/11 America are becoming the judicial norm. He must be at least a bit angry at the US at the moment. Maybe he expected in vain that his influential friends would get him out quickly? This is the perfect way of getting back to them, now. Holbroke is slated for the post of Secretary of State in the Kerry-Edwards administration. The story that he is somehow personally responsible for the worst massacre in Europe since the end of WW II, would certainly diminish his chances to hold that post. I mean, Republicans will devour H's flesh in public, if Sacirbey can substantiate his claims... ivo On 29 Jul 2004 at 17:10, Patrice Riemens wrote: Re: The last Ivogram about the misadventures of Mohamed Sacirbey... There was a quite extraordinary sequence of two evening programmes about the never ending Sebrenica affair on the Dutch public TV channel NOS/Nova yesterday and the day before yesterday. The full article (in Dutch) is at: http://www.nos.nl/nieuws/artikelen/2004/7/27/sacirbeysrebrenicawerdver raden.html The day before yesterday (I did not see that one), M.Sacirbey, just released on bail, and systematically refered to as "Mr Shakkerbee" (should be "Saadjeerbei"), told the interviewer that the Srebrenica enclave basically not only had been given up by the International forces, but was actually betrayed and its erasure made part of a deal between Bildt (European negotiator) and Holbrooke (the U.S. one) with the Serbians. Getting rid of the enclaves would 'ease up' the peace process and simplify its 'geography'. According to Sacirbey, the Dutch government (whose troops were 'protecting' Srebrenica) was kept in the dark about the deal. The subsequent massacre of 8000 Muslim men was of course not scripted beforehand (?) and an extremely bad 'surprise' to the parties concerned ... But the next day got really interesting (I saw that one) when Joris Voorhoeve (who was the Dutch defense minister then, and thus responsible for the troops) was asked to react on Sacirbey's assertions. He denied them en bloc, while admitting separately to each and everyone of them! The problem, he said, was that Sacirbey was 'vastly exagerating', and was 'deeply frustrated by the outcome' (and 'understandably so'). Asked to clarify the difference between his on the whole take and these separate admissions, Voorhoeve could only reply that Sacirbey could not ('ever') prove what he was asserting. He added that Srebrenica was the most horrendous human rights crime in Europe since WWII. And that he personally could not sleep for years because of it. (He looked quite healthy though, thanks God) In the end the fall of Srebrenica caused the fall of the Dutch government, though it is not clear if other causes were involved (the coalition was tired, and there were elections coming up anyway). There have also been countless commissions of enquiry, including a parliamentary one. None got very far in getting the whole picture. Mohamed Sacirbey is also a tricky subject by himself in the Netherlands, since he had a relationship with Mabel Wisse Smit, who is now married with Queen Beatrix's second son (the current PM had the couple conveniently demoted from Royal Family status ...) # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net