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"m" <m@manetas.com>
     Re: <nettime> [open letter to Yukiko Shikata] and the Google painting
trashconnection <www@trashconnection.com>
     Re[2]: <nettime>Re: Google buys Japanese painting of Google screenshot
olia lialina <olia@profolia.org>
     Re: <nettime>Re: Google buys Japanese painting of Google screenshot

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From: "m" <m@manetas.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> [open letter to Yukiko Shikata] and the Google painting
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:19:27 +0300

Well, we all know that Valery is the one who started the new fashion of
painting the websites.
Many, including myself, copied him, between them probably these Exonemo
people...
Copy is good...
Pitty they got only 5K for their huge and pretty picture...

mm

----- Original Message ----- 
from: "valery.grancher" <valery.grancher@wanadoo.fr>
to: <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net>
sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:55 PM
subject: <nettime> [open letter to Yukiko Shikata]

> To answer Geert lovink email about the google painting bought by Google:
> Hereafter some info about a google paintying done on 2001 in Los Angeles
> and its history !
> I sent this email hereafter to the curator of this event...
>
> Your coment are welcome:
>
> Best regards
>
> Valery Grancher
> http://www.nomemory.org
> http://www.nomemorybazaar.com
>
> Hello Yukiko Shikata,
>
> How are you, I'm contacting you because I just saw this page on the web
> and really I don't know how to perceive it.
 <...>

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:10:49 +0200
From: trashconnection <www@trashconnection.com>
Subject: Re[2]: <nettime>Re: Google buys Japanese painting of Google screenshot

Hello olia,

sometimes it's a matter of quality, not size or technique, isn't it?

>> $5000)!!!?=!

ol> :)))))))))


ol> in 2000 Rhizome.org bought the drawing of their site made by Moscow 
ol> artist Masha Boriskina 16 times cheaper.
ol> But it was just "paper, pencil, gouache, 300x200mm" and dot.com crash

ol> http://art.teleportacia.org/exhibition/masha/rhizome.jpg

-- 
Roman Minaev

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:55:51 +0200
From: olia lialina <olia@profolia.org>
Subject: Re: <nettime>Re: Google buys Japanese painting of Google screenshot

trashconnection wrote:

 > Hello olia,
 >
 > sometimes it's a matter of quality, not size or technique, isn't it?

In case of selling canvases size is very important like 200 and 100 
years ago. And name of an artist or a gallery, and situation on the 
market of course. Those are the qualities.

And these qualities make $5000 for google.com_oil_on_canvas_ 
2mx3m_in_2004 to be more than a modest price against $300 for 
Rhizome.org_pencil_on _paper_20cmx30cm_in_2000.


Order a real picture of your virtual office now! And a web cam (ha ha)

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