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Table of Contents: Re: <nettime> Salon gone? Nemonemini@aol.com Re: <nettime> Salon gone? Fred Heutte <phred@sunlightdata.com> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:23:18 EDT From: Nemonemini@aol.com Subject: Re: <nettime> Salon gone? In a message dated 6/28/2002 1:12:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jim@autonomedia.org writes: > Salon has been trying to boost its revenue by offering a subscription > service that excludes advertising and gives readers access to more > stories. Through March 31, Salon had signed up 35,100 subscribers who paid > $1.1 million in fees during the company's last fiscal year I find it hard to see how a company with that many subscribers should go out of business in the Internet age. With that kind of money, a closet full of html gremlins ought to be able to more than thrive. John Landon Website on the eonic effect http://eonix.8m.com nemonemini@eonix.8m.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:22:42 -0700 From: Fred Heutte <phred@sunlightdata.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> Salon gone? This is another example of media thundering-herd mentality. In fact, there was no "news" at all in the announcement that Salon's auditors cannot qualify it as an ongoing concern. This simply repeats the analysis stated in previous regulatory filings, including a year ago in virtually the exact same words. The fact is -- and as a (small) Salon shareholder I speak from experience -- Salon's ongoing survival is now a matter of financing by a small group of wealthy supporters. In the non-profit magazine world these are known as "angel investors," which has a different connotation that it does in conventional venture capital terms because the "angels" rarely expect to get all their money back. Certainly I can attest to that as a micro-angel. Of course, Salon is still a for-profit entity so the analogy isn't entirely accurate. Salon's prospects for being a profitable entity have never been all that great. They have moved away from an entirely ad-dependent business model, but 40,000 Salon Premium and a few thousand Well and Table Talk subscribers can't support a full-scale news and features online site. My hope has been that some progressive European media outfit would pick them up, because the synergies are quite obvious: Salon has a well-earned reputation for serious journalism and innovative cultural content; European audiences could benefit from that as well as American audiences benefitting immensely from more direct access to Euro perspectives. Europe isn't the only place to look, of course, but it's the most obvious. Anyway, this may all be only my personal fantasy. In any event, Salon seems to have enough cash and future income to keep going for at least a few more months -- which is all they've ever had, really. As long as the core of "angel investors" wishes to keep them afloat, they will be online. And if the economy really picks up or in some way the net audience starts to favor subscriptions for premium services that would otherwise disappear, they may get to a point of self-sustaining viability. Fred ------------------------------ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net