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<nettime> An interview w/Thomas Frank


Subj:    [7-11] The Big Question
Date:   7/12/2001 5:50:05 PM Central Daylight Time
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>From an interview with Thomas Frank at 
http://www.mediachannel.org/views/interviews/frank.shtml

Q:
Yet, scale for scale, the cultural shift requisite to reversing our impact on 
the natural world can only come of swift, wide communication and public 
change. If our tools of communication are contingent upon corporate media as 
we know it, then we cannot be using them in the way they need to be used. How 
do you imagine media in a whole new way?

A:
That's the big question. If I could answer that one. . . .

Q:
If we look at labor organizing against industrial-production monopolies in 
the Industrial Age, why not look at communicators organizing against 
discourse monopolies now in the Information Age?

A:
Maybe we will. Things are changing out there in the world of intelligentsia 
because things are falling apart in academia—at least in the humanities. 
There is a floating army of unemployed Ph.D.s, thinkers and readers. 
Historically, whenever this happens, there is always a great deal of 
theorizing that goes on. At times like these, all sorts of wonderful things 
come about. Maybe we'll get a great cultural flowering, who knows? I don't 
want to minimize how horrified I am at the world, and how troubling it is, 
but at the same time, I don't think it's over yet. There are plenty of 
intelligent people out there. Labor unions are not illegal. There are many, 
many people disenchanted with the world corporations have made. To this day, 
I honestly believe that if the Democrats were to run on a platform much like 
the one they ran on in say 1936 or 1940, they would win by a massive margin. 
They need to talk about social class and going after the corporations. But 
they don't want to do that, the people in office now are perfectly 
comfortable with their ties to money. They're not planning on passing any 
great, sweeping legislation anyway. These things can be taken on, though; 
they can change. I don't mean to be a complete pessimist. I think the public 
would go for something like this; I don't think they've been co-opted by 
entertainment and pleasure and don't care anymore about their real lives.
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