bc on Tue, 26 Feb 2002 06:51:02 +0100 (CET) |
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[Nettime-bold] For the Record: lunar digestive tract |
[for the archival records i would like it known that this is the message i was responding to, not the one that appeared prior to my response in the digest. as i was being sent the prior messages personally, and the one in the digest was sent to the list instead, and thus i was not able to see it before writing. yet it is in part identical to the post being responded to. bc] >Return-Path: <toby@solararmy.org> >Received: from web20509.mail.yahoo.com (web20509.mail.yahoo.com >[216.136.226.144]) > by squid5.laughingsquid.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA22372 > for <human@electronetwork.org>; Sat, 23 Feb 2002 22:32:34 -0800 >Message-ID: <20020224063238.7535.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> >Received: from [64.168.22.201] by web20509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; >Sat, 23 Feb 2002 22:32:38 PST >Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 22:32:38 -0800 (PST) >From: Toby Barlow <toby@solararmy.org> >Subject: Re: <nettime> Re: the development of a solar infrastructure >To: bc <human@electronetwork.org> >In-Reply-To: <a05101200b89e1faae969@[165.247.250.182]> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >X-UIDL: LFZ"!59'#!h"Z!!c*F!! > >I think your questions are good ones. I think there >are ideas worth studying here. But the question I have >is a fundamental one. Solar is a mature technology >with an immature manufacturing and marketing base, so >how do you change that? > >While weather patterns may change, a sudden influx of >cloudy days, even if it's thirty percent more, would >still leave you with ten or so free years of energy. >If it's more than thirty percent, we're all screwed >anyway. > >As for the solar panels adding to climate change - >first of all if solar permeated so many rooftops that >it was even an issue even within the next twenty five >years, I would be surprised. But more to the point, if >you are putting solar panels on rooftops that are >already black with tar, it's adds nothing. So I can't >imagine that is an issue either. > >I certainly respect and admire your long range >forecasting. But I think, fundamentally, we have to >get this thing going or else the massive climate >change you speak of is a foregone conclusion, at least >the way we're currently headed. > >Thanks. Toby. > >--- bc <human@electronetwork.org> wrote: >> >> [have not checked out the websites mentioned >> in your post on voting for solar (bonds), but i >> had a thought or two that was newly formed, >> given the change from the solar economy and >> the rhetoric roughly 30 years old now, with >> books and books about solar, much research, >> and still, as you mention, a mixed-energy-use > > issue. here is the conundrum i see in 2002... > > .... _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://amsterdam.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold