Gabriel Pickard on Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:57:58 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] Demokratica |
Hello nettimers! First of all, I would like to tell you that www.demokratica.org is now up and running. Second, please let me introduce you to Demokratica itself. I would describe Demokratica like this: It is (at the moment) an idea of a social movement that redefines our economy in an ethical way. I would like you to give me as many comments as possible. Please participate if you think the idea is worth anything at all (you can change points that you don't like, if you have the sufficient majority >democracy<) - Or i would be just as interested in your reasons for not participating. Thank You. ( mailto:werg@demokratica.de ) (note: yes, i read the post concerning NAM. i found it quite interesting --- it is baffling, how near our ideas are. yet they are a lot more scientific. maybe that is the strength of demokratica. demokratica is not a counter act against anyone! - and only against very few things. --- can someone give me Kojin Karatani's email-address?) // this is a text from http://www.demokratica.org/system.htm - so you don't have to read it, if you're already checking out the site ;-} Demokratica's measures will follow certain premises. - Non-violent. I choose non-violent, because it is good. If you have any objections, tell me. - Freedom of religion. While the freedom to choose (or not to choose) a religion would certainly be maintained, Demokratica still would encourage it's members to engage in spirituality of some kind - because people should be whole - and happier through it - and that involves spirituality. Members of Demokratica should find ways of interacting in a symbolical and cultural way. - Freedom of speech. Free speech should only be inflicted in very minimal areas where other humans are harmed seriously. Demokratica depends on a living discourse between it's members, because with out this discussion and criticism, certain groups would be able to dominate the whole process, analog to modern-day republican systems. - Ethical orientation: Maximizing Happiness, Minimizing Suffering. Demokratica is about changing things and all members should make an effort to influence everything for the good. This also involves perfecting each and every members own personality. Demokratica is a economical theory only to one half - the other half is made up of what happens inside the people. - Political, economical and cultural actions should be considered equal. This involves people not only with their workforce, but also with their hearts. Members of Demokratica are required always to think of how they can integrate Demokratica more into their lives and how they can integrate themselves more into Demokratica. - Property actually exists - and actually doesn't exist. For natural practicability, things, that a person, or module is momentarily using and which are really needed, are considered semi-property. But the big stuff, the land, the air, the stars, the fossil-oil, the gold don't belong to anybody, they belong to themselves, not even to everybody together...but on the other hand, if it doesn't belong to anybody, using in a good way won't harm (which means we don't all have to starve now). - Future generations have the same right of consideration as present ones. We are asked to primarily work on the problems nowadays, but we also should think ahead with like concern. For example, we should fight against poverty nowadays with 90% of our strength, but we should also invest into technologies like space flight or nano-tech, which might become important for future generations. What will it look like? - Think in Modules. Members group together in Modules of about eight people. These can be quite homogeneous (all members of one "profession"), or heterogeneous (for example two families). - Link these Modules. In a normal business-structure, it often does not suffice, only to integrate one group of this size into one production-process, that is why larger companies are born (next to enriching the owner). That is why Modules can be statically linked to each other - in a well defined interface, stating which goods, services or information are to be exchanged. A timeframe, a definition of the location, availability and other settings can be integrated if needed. - All information, goods and services, which a module receives or produces are recorded and weighed against each other. The front-end of each module is a list, like an account in book-keeping, it has two parts, the body, listing the input and output of goods and services, the head, showing the persons involved in the module and the sum of all received and given information. This front-end is public. The back-end shows which information, in elaborate, a module has received or produced. - The two sides of the front- and back-end can also be considered as the two sides of an equation. Using a mathematical method for solving equations depending on variables (types of goods) you could find prices depending on one ground-unit (for example one kilogram of rice). - Think in projects and ideas. Every area of action has a project (there also can be concurring projects). Projects only contain ideas. They do not contain humans. Humans always belong to modules. Each link should define which project(s) it belongs to. Every project comes with a voting system, defining which type of issues should be voted public - and which should be decided by the people doing the work. - Each person has goals. The goods, services and information which a person uses or produces inside the module are associated with the goals that they were used for, or were caused by. A person's goals are derived from the ideas described in the projects that this person takes action in. - A better social environment. The learning process (schools) and the working process should be more intertwined. Children can have the feeling of doing "real" things even though they are still young. Equal rights between the rich countries and the (now) poor help to prevent social tension. - Work together. Communal work gets the job done best and builds solidarity. It also gives the individual access to parts of work-life that he or she has not experienced yet. It is mandatory for every member (not only that, every member has the right) to do work in diverse economical fields. - Move it. To make the inner renewal and the discussion of innovations easier, movements are a part of Demokratica. Demokratica itself is a movement. Movements do not have a clear structure. It should only be known that they exist and that anyone who wants to move things may take this way. How? - Buy companies. Then integrate them into this system. - Let businesses and organizations integrate themselves slowly. Giving them stages of compliancy. Their organization-structure would be modified gradually and the employees would slowly be released into the demokratica-system, still holding strong ties to their former employer. The brand-name would become a project, the product-palette ideas. - Start from scratch. Create your own economy inside and against the old economy just by connecting individuals. - Found parties. To support Demokratica's efforts in creating a better social environment. Use that political movement also to fight against dictatorship all around the world - Through the web-community, create interest, connect people and further develop the concept. - I myself have quite a few business ideas that could give the start of demokratica the decisive push. - Demokratica would change parts of public life quite radically. I would wish that certain aspects, like integrating agricultural work into public, everybody's life could be accomplished. Quite a few stores would be changed into public meeting-places. And so forth. // end of inserted text. let's get on with the personal stuff... I want to ask a bold question: ! Is Demokratica capable of becoming a mothership for our movement? ! Forgive me, if I give my idea too much importance. Becoming this, of course, would mean that it wouldn't stay "my" Demokratica any more. My friend Lech actually thinks that i have gone too far with definition and that we should have started earlier on, doing things and adapting the concept intuitively. I believe there are three main ways to interpret Demokratica. 1. Solely economical. The mechanisms of the system are taken and used in a economical process (for example high-tech-development). 2. Completely and social. A reconstruction of society according to the system and Demokratica's ethical goals ( would require a lot of change, very political - i favor this interpretation) 3. Artistic and theoretical. Implementing Demokratica an ideal Demokratica in ideas and actions on a very personalized level, without a large social movement (This would be if you see Demokratica as a Utopia that has it's strength in being a counterpart to our momentary structure - this would require a much more precise and in-depth definition - and for what, just for art?). Well, thanks for reading, and remember, all of this stuff does not really mean demokratica, demokratica is in the doing. Let me also say here that it is also very important for me to do as much good as possible, otherwise, all of this loses it's sense to me. Anyway, this was the first real public post of this idea, let's hope for more. Kooperate!! -- Gabriel. mailto:werg@demokratica.de _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold