Károly Tóth on Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:41:14 +0100


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Re:Re: Syndicate: zeroglab rotterdam: L.M. -Digital Constru...rary Style


:)

Dear Lev,

Thanks to the answer.

> I am glad my little remark provoked such a detailed response...and
> emotions! Not quite sure what part of it to respond to. However:


Turbulences.....  :)
My proximity sensors are sensible.

1. By "anti-subjectified" I mean the style or attitude which refuses
defining identity through consumer syles, labels or products.
So wearing no-label cloves or using no-lable, industrial products would
qualify.

I still don't get it all, but it is OK.

2.
>then I am de Marcel Duchamp of the WebArt?

> Probably not.

I agree :) Just imagine! The boo-boo man. Again.

> With the proliferation of digital media and Web art, an
> avant-garde artists today should stay of the Web altogether.


Aha! Proust again?  :) The other boo-boo man.

3.
>I just want to help Lev Manovitch with his scientific research on web
>design, providing facts, to help to solve HIS problem. Apparently he has
>one.

> Easy does it! Have you been to the boarding school?
> The only PROBLEM I have is trying to make the sense of times we live in.


Does it have sense? One of the boo-boo men said once, (my favorite,
something like )
There is no solution, because there is no problem.

> This includes HCI and the Web.
Akkording to you, if I understand it well, the avantgarde artist is supposed
to solve some problem of HCI, which at the same time 'should stay of the Web
altogether', incl. HCI? Hm.... maybe it makes sense, maybe not.

> So, I am back to my "ivory tower."


> Cheers from la-la land,

> Lev

Go with peace. :)

I have made a space (H.H.I.)  Special for you as a sign of good will. I have
made a better tuning for it, so it is much slower now, and does not shout :)
First I named it in some extremely serious fashion, I must admit.
But I have changed to: The Quick Desert Fox Jumps Over The Lazy Dog.
1234567890.
What do you think, can you deal with it? It is yours now. :)

grtnx Karoly

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# Linguistic study.
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____________________________________________________
zeroglab-rotterdam
name: Károly Tóth
address: Gedempte Zalmhaven 923, 3011 BT Rotterdam NL
tel: +31 (0)10 2400390 or 2400391
e-mail: zeroglab@freemail.c3.hu
           karoly.toth@excite.com