Re: [Nettime-nl] 'Internetkunst'

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> From: "nettime's_anal_editor" <nettime@bbs.thing.net>
> To: <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:35 AM
> Subject: <nettime> net*&%$!art digest [thomas, hopkins, turgeon]
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> > Re: <nettime> net?art survey
> >      "clement Thomas" <ctgr@free.fr>
> >      John Hopkins <jhopkins@uiah.fi>
> >      david turgeon <david.t@steam.ca>
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> > From: "clement Thomas" <ctgr@free.fr>
> > Subject: Re: [thingist] net?art survey
> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:40:06 +0100
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> > http://www.net-art.org
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> > watch your back !
> > http://www.NNet-art.org
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > from: "Nino Rodriguez" <nino@pobox.com>
> > to: <list@rhizome.org>; <thingist@bbs.thing.net>; <nettime@bbs.thing.net>
> > sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:10 PM
> > subject: [thingist] net?art survey
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> > > So which is it?
> > <...>
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> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:45:47 -0700
> > From: John Hopkins <jhopkins@uiah.fi>
> > Subject: Re: <nettime> net?art survey
> >
> > >So which is it?
> >
> > It's
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> > >      netart (Tate)
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> > > "an impromptu portrait of online spirituality"
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> > >      net.art (Walker)
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> > > "Just click on a hyperlinked area to start"
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> > >      net-art (Whitney)
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> > >"a trippy online experience"
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> > >      net art (Documenta)
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> > > "a blend of acid-trip visuals and tech-nerd inventiveness"
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> > isn't it?
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> > jh
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> > Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 14:33:55 -0500
> > From: david turgeon <david.t@steam.ca>
> > Subject: Re: <nettime> net?art survey
> >
> > >So which is it?
> > >     netart
> > >     net.art
> > >     net-art
> > >     net art
> >
> > basically the question is: what meaning does punctuation have? a dot used
> > to mean something purely utilitarian such as "this sentence stops" or
> "this
> > is an abbreviation". OO programming, & internet addressing, use dots in
> > new contexts (they denote a hierarchy), so it doesn't seem so unusual to
> > call something "net.art" although using periods is a "wrong" way to form a
> > neologism. in this sense "net-art" is more correct but it is (to me) far
> > more awkward (& perhaps inaccurate because of its obsolescence) than "net
> > art" or "netart" which both seem more flexible.
> >
> > another interesting aspect of the use of the dot in "net.art" is that it
> > somehow turns the internet naming hierarchy on its head. a correct
> > internet address should be "art.net", so "net.art" gives the feeling that
> > it's the network that runs through art rather than the other way
> > around. on the other hand, if we follow OO conventions, we get the method
> > "art" as an element of the object "net", which is more cynical than the
> > previous interpretation. on the other hand, it implies that "art" would
> > exist in other contexts: kitchen.art, computer.art, land.art... it posits
> > "art" as a transient property of everything.
> >
> > perhaps the period is eventually going to replace the hyphen in our
> > vocabulary. stranger things have happened. we can also think of a
> > language where words can be lumped together with dots, as with OO
> > programming, but i'll leave that to the scholars out there.
> >
> > with all that being said, personally i have a fondness for the variety of
> > spellings, & i would find it a waste to make one of them "official."
> >
> > have a nice day
> > ~ david
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