t byfield on Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:45:54 +0100 (CET) |
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<nettime> Re: spooky silence |
snafu@kyuzz.org (Sun 12/19/99 at 06:40 PM +0100): > i find this silence on what happened > two days ago really spooky, at the limit > of the soviet censorship... > everybody knows that the thing, the server > that hosts this list has been shut down between > 2am and 3pm of friday 17th. judging by some of the shrill messages i've seen, i wouldn't assume that everyone is clear on the facts. here they are as well as i know them: (1) Etoys complained to The Thing's upstream provider, about the ECD webpage at Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:49:36 -0800 (PST) [ = Fri, 17 Dec 01:49:36 -0500 (EST), in TT's timezone]. if indeed Verio shut down TT at ~2am, they didn't waste much time. but we'll find out, i think. ;) (2) Verio's subsidiary that handles TT, Spacelab, blocked ac- cess to the *host* www.thing.net, *not* to the thing.net domain as such. Spacelab claims to have tried to contact TT by phone before doing so but there appears to be good reason to doubt this; as far as i know, they did not try to do so by email. as a result www.thing.net was blocked without warning. (3) when TT contacted Verio the next morning, Verio made var- ious verbal demands relating to rdom's user acount. (4) some time later TT complied with a minimal subset of the demands Verio had made, and Verio unblocked TT. there is more, of course, but people more directly involved should be the ones to talk about the other facts. > everybody knows that this happened because > high bandwith provider Verio, which supplies > Thing.net's "backbone" connection, > has been contacted from etoys corporation, > because of the virtual sit-in launched > by the thing and fakeshop in support > to etoy's fight for the domain. all true. > everybody knows that the thing has been > resumed only because hacktivist Ricardo > Dominguez agreed to remove his domain > /~rdom from the thing, including the > home page of the electronic disturbance > theater. '/~rdom' is a user directory, not a 'domain.' i don't think anyone is very clear on whether TT contacted ricardo before shutting down the site; afaic, TT had no choice whatsoever-- /~rdom was inaccessible *anyway*, as were many other sites, and TT's business was seriously at risk. moreover, NSI's de- cision to put the etoy.com *domain* on hold (which was *not* stipulated in the california court's preliminary injunction) suggests that Etoys may have applied pressure on NSI; had it done so with regard to TT, the result could have been that *all* TT hosts--the entire domain--might have been blocked. > this domain is still shut down. massive > actions of protest are being organised all > around the world. but this list continue > to speaks about barbie dolls and other very > "high profile issues". in other words, the entire list hasn't capitulated to panic politics. that's good. there are people on this list who've been working very diligently to deal with these issues else- where; the fact that you haven't seen much talk on the list doesn't mean that no one cares or no one is doing anything. > moreover, according to the NYT report, > an etoy's spokesman "denied that his group was > responsible for the sit-in" which would be > amazing, since etoy is calling for protest, > solidarity and various actions > since the beginning of this fight. i think it's best to let etoy focus on their battles rather than kvetching in public about whether they like ECD/RTMark counteractions. the preliminary injunction that caused them to shut down web service under etoy.com was a *preliminary* injunction: the court case isn't finished and what they say or do publicly could itself become a decisive issue--and it shouldn't, because Etoys's case is based on an intellectual property claim. one can support them passively, by not pres- sing certain issues, just as one can support them in active ways. > if anyone of etoy is on the list i'd like > to have an explanation about this statement. > > if anyone has something to hide, it would be > better that s/h/it speaks immediately, since what > happened on friday is one of the most illegal > and arrogant acts that occurred since the born > of the internet. an act that definitely shows > the real face of this "democratic" media, and > of the powerful who rule it. i think it was just Machtpolitik of a very boring and predic- table kind. but the issue is far from resolved: as the saying goes, 'it ain't over till the fat lady sings.' > we can not agree with the EDT tactics, but > what happened on friday is on another level, > is really on another level. if you don't > understand this, we have already lost. very much agreed. ever since EDT began its activities, critics --myself included--have warned that exactly this kind of thing would happen. not surpisingly, when the larger power structure in which EDT has been functioning bares its teeth, the mystify- ing metaphors like 'sit-in' completely fall apart. and, as has become a tiresome pattern on nettime and other such lists, vir- tual activists use the list to promote their earth-shattering activities but never provide any follow-up reports. so, if you want to criticize the list for failing to discuss what happen- ed, please keep that longer silence in mind--it's an important part of the context. cheers, t # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net