K.Patelis on Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:23:57 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> e-LITISM (UK and beyond) |
The bitter comments reflected in this frank commentary leave me astoned. For one academia is no longer an ivory tower. I wish working there was a digital paradise for masturbation but unfortunately academia is more commercialised everyday and access to the Net has been stoped by universities to many research students as a way to settle financial dificulties. Believe me universities do not keep their staff happy or rich. But I have a more general objeciton to the comments which is :WHY ON EARTH DO YOU EXPECT THE NET TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS OF MAN KIND INCLUDING THE INEQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES? Your comments reminded me of a question students used ot ask me upon arrival at a new educational institution " are you working class?" was the qeustion. I laughed! I mean do you ask a dyslecix Greek girl writing a PhD at 24 if she is priveledged? It is such a stupid question. It is stupid ecause it is only those who live in the world you accuse us of living in that can imagi nesuch comparison. The others know by birth that there a sturcutrla inequalities that will and can not be possibly erased by technology.Beating yourself up about it is like taking a year of to go to "poor poeple".(the speling mistakes in this answer are my living reminder that cyberspace can not be magical). There are plenty of poeple in this mailing list that have had plenty of opportunities to experience exclusion and the ridiculity of the Net in certain circumstances. And I am talking about more serious problems than my computer and disks being destroyed in the earth quake. They haven't made similar comments because they understand the limitations of the medium. Finnaly I should point out to you numerous academic pieces that are very critical , some old like "Cyberspace and the world we live in", my own political economy of the Internet, Sussmans work, even Digital Capitalism by Dan Schiller. So no I am in no need to phicoanalise myself on how pirvelidged I am and I think that this need expressed by the letter is what needs to be talked about. Korinna PS to put it simply the letter talked more about the priviledges experienced on the off-line world then about the ones on-line. Maybe I say that becuase Greece has 200.000 users only!Reflect on this before dismissing my point 8888888On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Geert Lovink wrote: > OBSERVATIONS ON e-LITISM > By Jim <.....> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net