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valery grancher on Fri, 21 May 1999 22:33:49 +0200 (CEST)


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<nettime> Re: granchergram 052199 [digest]: dominique, kosick


What do we call "gains"  ?
When you are getting back tens and tens insult, flame, critics, difamation !!!!!
When you loose your own money to defend your opinion and your position ?
In this case its was the reality I got back from my opinion and works ...
And I don't change any way my way !!!!!

all my best,

Valery Grancher
vgranger {AT} imaginet.fr
http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory

nettime's_digestive_system wrote:

> dominique {AT} hushmail.com
>          VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL.
> Terrence J Kosick <kosick {AT} sprint.ca>
>          Re: RHIZOME_RAW: VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL.
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> From: dominique {AT} hushmail.com
> Date: Fri May 21 02:04:46 EDT 1999
> Subject: VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL.
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>      [both orig messages also to/cc rhizome]
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> VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL.
>
> Art fields are always in a stage of metamorphosis, changing from the darling
> seedlings of "free form" creativity, where rough edges are neccesary towards
> creating the definition of its spirit. There soon comes the marginal
> institutionalization; the introduction of museums, money making models and
> whatnot, met early on with the resistance of the underground scene which
> created it- yet, the older its participants become, and the less romantic "free
> art" becomes, the more likely that the further institutionalizations will gain
> way over the seedling and allow it to come to full academically discussed
> bloom.
>
> The only value free art has is in the romanticism of its early formative years.
> Yet new media and web based art is by definition free, available to all, and
> repellant to its neccesary institutionalization. No art seedling can thrive
> without the sunlight of cash flow...all that remains without it is an
> underground network of nebulous potential, and all else is simply romantic
> posturing.
>
> It is rare then to encounter a master craftsman who remains as rebellious in
> spirit while participating in the academic blossom of his or her craft. While
> constructing a thesis on internet art I encountered the stunning work of Valery
> Grancher...
>
> http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory/ Is the location of a truly revolutionary
> artist at work. Who else would protest NATO bombings in the wake of such a
> public outcry of support for the bombing campaign which has cost thousands
> their homes and lives?
>
> Valery also explores the true interactive nature of the web by urging the
> non-educated to take part and to be showcased. Events with the Candy Factory in
> Japan create a rare opportunity for individuals whom would otherwise not
> consider themselves to be "creative" to interact with the work on the WWW.
>
> Valery is a master of subtlety and perseverance. His bold statements oftentimes
> incur bold reactions. This is the supreme goal of any "artist:" the reaction!.
> Yet the number of attacks on Valery do not sway him. There is not even a hint
> of re-evaluation despite the barrage of data, facts, figures and "realities"
> which are thrown in his direction. This perseverance is admirable in a society
> based on constant re-evaluation and analysis of ideologies. This weakness is
> not Granchers.
>
> For instance, his recent "black page" project for Yugoslavian War Victims (and,
> in fact, "All War Victims In General") was such a shocking statement- who would
> dedicate art to the War Victims? With the abundance of pro-NATO work on the
> world wide web, coupled with strong anti-war victim sentiment, such a statement
> could be determined to be a simple shock technique. Yet the subtlety with which
> Grancher handled the piece was evident of a true master. In numerous emails,
> which he was bold enough to send from his own address and sign his own name to,
> he declared the "Anonymous Black Screen" Project, which revolutionized both
> anti-war movements and the definitions of anonymity on the internet. You can
> still view this Black page online: http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory/
>
> The work is subtle, yet the actual purpose of the page does not underscore its
> usefulness: Highlight the page and you will see that it is still a functional
> index. Many others would perhaps limit the page to true black, yet Valery
> allows the user to percieve the message even stronger by allowing access to his
> other works of the same calibre.
>
> One wonders if such a revolutionary artist - see the use of animated .gifs on
> his index page for an example- ( http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory/index2.htm )
> would be accepted by mainstream art houses even after these shocking and
> innovative departures from the common day drudgery of internet art, which is
> seemingly content with simple movement and progression.
>
> Valery is an artist who refuses to speak anything but his mind, as loudly as he
> can. Strong anti-Grancher sentiment lies in the wake of his work for his entire
> life; as it does for every truly revolutionary artist.
>
> __excess_data___________________
> To access this amazing work:
> http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory/
>
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> http://www.7-11.org
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> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:50:42 +0000
> From: Terrence J Kosick <kosick {AT} sprint.ca>
> To: dominique {AT} hushmail.com
> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL.
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> Terrence writes;
>
> More propaganda ideas for the carreer minded web artists making gains on the
> war.
>
> dominique {AT} hushmail.com wrote:
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> > VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL.
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>      [~66 lines of orig mail (above) deleted--tb]
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