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<nettime> contra Barbrook digest [blissett, stahlman] |
[nettime isn't the best venue for unsubstantiated claims that this or that person or organization 'really' works for the CIA/MI6/etc, nor for propagating theories about 'one world government' and suchlike. *really.* --tb] Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:10:26 +0200 From: Luther Blissett <tom9351@iperbole.bologna.it> Subject: Barbrook, the KLA and St. Anthony from Padua I've just read Richard Barbrook's latest message on the KLA, and what I *don't* understand is: Why is Barbrook in such a hurry all the time? Why not think twice before describing those who adverse the NATO bombings as members of the Milosevic Fan Club? Is Barbrook trying to acknowledge Wesley Clark as a good Marxist? Didn't he mistook the KLA for the KLF? I heard that Richard displayed the same haste at N5M3 when he spread some funny disinformation about Toni Negri's "conversion" to Catholicism, by handing out and attaching on walls a xeroxed britpress piece, so I take this opportunity to specify. The "primary" source is La Repubblica, but it's an utter fake which originated from both Negri's early Eighties book *The labour of Job* (an essay about patience he wrote while doing time after the 7 Aprile witch hunt) and the fact that he's working on parole at Caritas (a network of Catholic community centres) - at night he still sleeps at Rebibbia state penitentiary, where he's got to re-enter at 10pm. Actually Negri was a Catholic back in the Fifties - he's from Veneto (a staunch Catholic region). To boot, he frequently wrote about theology (via Spinoza). This is more or less what he stated when the hacks phoned him. I can understand why Richard was so amused by these news, but there was no "re-conversion". I experienced the "professionality" and "fact-checking" of British journalists myself, so I can figure out what the news had become when it reached the UK. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Newmedia@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:14:15 EST To: nettime-l@desk.nl Subject: Re: <.nettime> hidden agendas and Kosovo Richard: << Victory to the KLA! Ha! Silly boy, what do you know about the KLA? Or, what do any of us know? Why not parachute in and tell us what you find out? It so happens that the superintendent of my office building and half the staff in the building where I live are Albanian. I've been talking with them all for months about this and all the rest. They do know something. Hmmm . . . what do they say? They say the KLA *isn't* Albanian. Their favorite view is that this is pure CIA. Their second favorite is that the KLA is British Intelligence. It make zero sense to any of them that the KLA is "indigenous." Zero sense. The ALLIANCE accepts the signature of a 29-year-old on a "peace agreement"! This makes no sense. To them, to their relatives, to anybody that they have ever spoken with, it makes no sense. The KLA is, as far as they are all concerned, the creation of some outside power. There just to stir things up. Do you know better? Do you know your Balkan history? Do you really want to defend WORLD GOVERNMENT? We know that you defend Tony Blair but do you really want to defend his NEW EMPIRE? Who really backs the KLA.? Victory to THEM? The Balkans have long been a powerkeg, that we all are told. Even people from the Balkans themselves agree. But, study the kistory and talk to the people who have lived through it and a very uniform picture emerges. The Balkans are a powerkeg and are kept as a powerkeg for one reason -- because they are on the border between empires. EMPIRES. They are a convenient powerkeg created by Nazi-precursor Karl Haushofer's "geopolitics", by British Intelligence's playing of the "Great Game" and by Kissinger's "balance of power." Not because these proud people can't get along with each other. Phooey. Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, British, Russian, Venetian, Khazar and you-name-it empires all meet and have all met in the Balkans. And, what are the empires of today? Well, there is WORLD GOVERNMENT, of course. The ALLIANCE. And, then, there's anyone who opposes WORLD GOVERNMENT, like the Russians and the Chinese. Could they possibly be involved with this conflict? With Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic joining NATO, Belarus re-joining Russia and the Ukranian parliament voting to re-instate themselves as a nuclear power and people attacking the American embassy in Moscow with rocket- launchers, you think these events in Kosovo are really about the KLA or Milosevic? Come on! There is absolutely no reason for any of us to support either "side" in the Yugo/Serbia/Kosovo conflict. No reason. We simply don't know enough. Do you know about the rich gold-mines and other mineral deposits in Kosovo? Did you know that 40% of the electricity in the entire area (including Serbia and Macedonia) comes from coal-fired plants in Kosovo? Do you really want to try to figure out who controls these resources and what the impact of this or that "peace settlement" will mean for the populations involved? That's the problem with all the chatter about this. It's mindless. It's just as mindless to say, "I was under the impression that the Left was supposed to be in favour of the right of national self-determination upto and including secession from the colonising power." As it is to be caught "regurgitating the old Stalinist jargon about 'defending socialism' against yankee imperialism." Equally mindless. Step back. Think. What are the implications of a world with borders? How many times have you uttered "The Internet dissolves all national borders" or some such doggerel? What are the implications of the view that the nation- state must be destroyed? Consequences! All of this has consequences. Could it be EMPIRE? Would you like to live in a world dominated by EMPIRE? So few of us have even tried to think these things through. Do you know what a DARK AGE looks like? Gee, I suppose it would be nice to be empress-for-a-day. How . . . elite. Are you ready for the NEW PLAGUE? Are you ready for half the population of the world to die a terrible death? Too many people? Kill 'em all . . . and God will sort it out? The bombs over Yugo/Serbia/Kosovo should also be a bomb in our own lives. A real life bomb. Life is real, not virtual. Suffering is real, not virtual. Bombs are real, not virtual. Take advantage of your confusion over all this. Learn something you didn't know. Forget what you have been told. Take charge of your own world. It's the only one you've got. For the love of life, Mark Stahlman -----End of forwarded message----- --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@desk.nl and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner@desk.nl