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1...Kevin Murray..........Goodbye Kind World
2...DOCALERT..............ANtI-nUKe protest plan
3...Steven Clift..........Nonprofit IT Research Request
4...Laura McGough.........MASSAGE v2.0
5...Olon Nijmegen.........Amarc congres Milaan 23-29 augustus
6...dd
7...name.space.info.......The Top 50 new gTLDs
8...Josephine Berry.......Mute announcement
9...Andy Forbes...........correction of 'ISEA net.art competition'
                          (announcer 041)
10..rkafens...............Language Works
11..Phil Agre.............papers by Andrew Odlyzko
12..R.U. Sirius...........R.U. Sirius Starts THE REVOLUTION


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From: "Kevin Murray" <kmurray@mira.net>
Subject: Goodbye Kind World
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 00:54:37 +1000

Dear Nettimers,

Time is running out. There is only eighteen months of the 20th century left.
Soon it will all be gone--just a cosy memory of nation states and personal
service. As we all jump into the next millennium, we leave behind a paternal
wonderland, where there was always someone to talk to. Institutions, boards
and councils deliberated in solid red brick buildings about the welfare of
'society'. Someone pretended to care.

What to do with material edifice of this nation state?

The only choice is a collective consumption, a 20th century sparagmos.

So far, already:
*The dismemberment of the Berlin Wall*
*Russian artists consume the body of Lenin baked as a cake.*
*In Australia, the sale of Telstra in a massive float of public shares*
*Use of Elvis Presley DNA in personal jewellery*

What is next on the menu? Any suggestions would be most welcome.

Goodbye Kind World is an exhibition beginning at http://www.kitezh.com/gkw.


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From: DOCALERT@cedbom.ilbom.ernet.in
Date:          Mon, 6 Jul 1998 04:31:50 IST
Subject:         ANtI-nUKe protest plan

The following message from Anand Patwardhan calls for a symbolic
action on Hiroshima Day.

friends
one sub-continental (could be worldwide depending on our reach) common
minimum action plan that is gathering momentum is that on august 6 we will
all make and wear a white ribbon on our hearts (make a bow or a loop from a
strip of any white cloth ) in memory of hiroshima and in protest against
nukes.

the alert team at CED


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From: "Steven Clift" <clift@publicus.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 21:29:58 -0500
Subject: Nonprofit IT Research Request

- Due to the question diversity, this message has been cross-posted -
- widely.  Please forward to those you know would be interested.    -



Non-profit Sector Information Technology Assessment Research
------------------------------------------------------------
                                          V1.0 - 6 JUL 1998

Minnesota Council of Nonprofits requests your assistance in
identifying important information technology planning and
development efforts involving non-profit sector (NGOs, community
and voluntary organizations) from around the world.

Please fill out the contact form and reply via e-mail to any or
all of the questions.  Please take a few minutes right now to
send a quick response.  Or respond in more detail by Thursday,
July 17, 1998 at the latest.

If you have reports or guides in paper or CD form that you would
like to contribute, please mail them to:  MN Nonprofit IT
Assessment, c/o Steven Clift, 3454 Fremont Ave S, Minneapolis,
MN 55408, USA


*****    E-mail your reply to:   np-it@publicus.net    *****


Contact Form
------------

Name:
E-mail:
Telephone:
Organization:
Web Address:
City/State:
Country:

Other Notes:



Questions
---------

Please provide your input on any or all 11 questions.

1. Seeking Experts - Who are some of the experts in your
field or community that you would recommend we contact or inform
about our research efforts? (Name, e-mail and other details if
you have them, please.)



2. Research Efforts - Are you aware of research efforts in
other states or countries exploring non-profit IT planning
and development issues?



3. Funding for Planning - What government (at any level) or
foundation funding programs are available that include options
for planning? Information about their funding levels and
identification of specific legislation or rules for government
programs would be helpful.



4. Shared Support - Are there examples of efforts where
non-profit organizations have developed or provide mutual or
shared support mechanisms for their IT planning or development
needs?



5. Planning Information - What information resources (reports,
books, websites, etc.) do you recommend for use in non-profit IT
planning?   This includes information that helps non-profits
understand their communications options, determine appropriate
technologies, and acquire and maximize use of IT among other
things.



6. Private Sector Expertise - What model programs have extended
private sector IT planning expertise to non-profit organizations
in a given community or non-profit sub-sector?



7. Peer-to-Peer Communication - What examples of organized
peer-to-peer, cross-organizational online communication within
the non-profit sector have proven successful?  Of particular
interest is interaction among those in a specific geographic
area.



8. Data Sharing and Standards - What non-profit "data sharing"
and standardization efforts exist?  What are some of the lessons
learned?



9. Internet Connections - Are there initiatives that help
non-profits with discounted rate direct Internet connections
(ISDN, DSL, T1, etc.), bring multiple non-profits into "wired"
buildings where they share connection costs, or help establish
purchasing cooperatives that bring down ongoing IT costs?



10. Internet Presence and Content - What sustainable
initiatives have provided cost effective, full service Internet
presence for multiple non-profits? (Web site, e-mail
address(es), e-mail list services, online conferencing, database
integration, etc.. ) What model community information
projects aggregate community information for broader access
by using the Internet as a distributed input tool?



11.  Non-Profit Involvement with Government Efforts - Which
governments encourage the participation of relevant non-profit
organizations in public sector IT efforts which impact the
activities of non-profit organizations?  Are you aware of
government leaders who advocate the participation of
non-profits in public sector IT initiatives?



*****    E-mail your reply to:   np-it@publicus.net    *****


Results
-------

This research will be used for the Minnesota Nonprofit Sector
Information Technology Initiative to more fully understand the
technological capacity of non-profits to fulfill their missions
and communicate about programs.  It will give non-profits an
opportunity to understand what works with technology and how to
narrow the technological gap between nonprofits and government
or for-profit entities.

When results are released an announcement will be widely
distributed on appropriate e-mail distribution lists.  You may
also visit the Minnesota Council of Non-Profits web sites for
more information:  http://www.mncn.org


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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:02:23 -0400
From: nomads@nomadnet.org (Laura McGough)
Subject: MASSAGE v2.0

MASSAGE v2.0
http://www.nomadnet.org/massage2

You are once again invited to drop-by MASSAGE for a stimulating rubdown on
contemporary art, media and technology.

In MASSAGE v2.0, NOMADS catch-up with musician, filmmaker & video artist
Tony Conrad. Conrad, who along with La Monte Young, John Cale, Angus
MacLise and Marian Zazeela performed as The Dream Syndicate in the early
1960s, recently released a four-disc box set entitled Early Minimalism,
Volume One, which sets-out to re-chart some of the group's musical
experiments. In the MASSAGE interview, the always articulate and animated
Conrad discusses music, technology and new audiences.

Elsewhere in v2.0, Lisa Haskel surveys independent media practices in the
UK and Nancy Paterson considers the relationship between technology and
art. The Project Room features QuickTime movies by artist Shannon Kennedy.

MASSAGE v2.0 requires Netscape 4.0 or Internet Explorer 4.0.


Thanks to P22, Tony Conrad, Gary Thomas at The Arts Council of England and
Keith Roberson.


Laura McGough
Co-Director
nomads@nomadnet.org


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Van:	Olon Nijmegen [SMTP:buro@OLON.NL]
Verzonden:	woensdag 8 juli 1998 9:46
Onderwerp:	ALL: Amarc congres Milaan 23-29 augustus



>>>>>>

Press notice (apologies for any cross-posting)
AMARC 7 - Communication and Human Rights - Seventh World Conference of
Community Radio Broadcasters - Milan, 23-29 August 1998
AMARC, the World Association of Community Radio Broadcasters is hosting its
Seventh World Conference in Milan from 23 to 29 August 1998. Conference
information and complete booking details for the event are now available
on-line at http://www.amarc.org/amarc7
Under the theme of Communication and Human Rights, AMARC 7 will bring
together over 400 communications activists from 80 countries to commemorate
the 50th anniversary of the Unversal Declaration of Human Rights. The
conference will address the Right to Co
mmunicate, the role of the media in promoting tolerance and cultural
diversity, and the impact  of new information technologies on democratic
communications.
Related activities will include an on-site radio station, Radio Planete
Terre  broadcasting globally by satellite and internet, and a virtual
pre-conference also accessible through the AMARC 7 Web site. Bookmark it
now!
For further information contact:
amarc@gn.apc.org or amarcho@amarc.org


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From: dd <addfield@ath.forthnet.gr>
Subject: Announcement
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:26:32 +0300

A new net artwork by Dimos Dimitriou.

"OPEN"
URL  http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/addfield/open.htm

An artwork related to the user's actions.

There are no direct relations to the machine's components, but to the
user's interactivity behaviors.

User's behavior actions are presented as the mediums for the execution of
the scripts.

Human actions are distanced from the executed scripts.


dd


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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 09:56:08 -0400
From: info@pgmedia.net (name.space.info)
Subject: The Top 50 new gTLDs

       The vote for new generic toplevel domains is now on.

<... 8 July results snipped: announcer appears on 10 July -T ...>

       To View the entire list of new gTLDs go to
       http://Vote.Global-Namespace.Net

       To view some of the names registered and their related sites,
       please go to
       http://name.space.xs2.net/links
       and
       http://blackhole.autono.net/switchboard


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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:36:52 +0000
From: Josephine Berry <josie@metamute.com>
Subject: announcement for announcer


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From: "Andy Forbes" <andy@j15.co.uk>
Subject: Fw: A. TO: Fw: <nettime> ISEA net.art competition
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:00:32 +0100


       -----Original Message-----From:  JOHN.HYATT@MCR1.poptel.org.uk
<JOHN.HYATT@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>To:  <mailto:andy@j15.co.uk> andy@j15.co.uk
<andy@j15.co.uk>Date: Thursday,  July 09, 1998 2:55 PMSubject: A. TO: Fw:
<nettime> ISEA net.art  competition, call for sponsors!Dear all,Due  to
human error, a draft letter seeking sponsorship of the net-art98
competition  appeared in <nettime> announcer 041. This should have been the
'call for  nominations', below. In addition the 'sponsorship' text was
unapproved and its  assertion that Ellipisis are hosting net-art98 was
erroneous. Ellipsis host the  official ISEA98 site <http://www.isea98.org>
and not net-art98,  which is a separate approved project. The human who
erred so terribly is  being reprogrammed by leeches.John Hyatt (Chair:
ISEA98TERROR, 5-7  September, Manchester)ISEA98TERROR/net-art98Call for
nominations'web specific art' - online competitionnet-art98 is
ISEA98TERROR's online web-specific art competition, its result will be
decided  by online registered voters.net-art98 is now online at
http://www.net-art.org and open for  nominations from all online.
Nominations must fulfil the definition of  being 'web-specific
art'.net-art98 voting online will launch on  September 5th 1998 from the
ninth  International Symposium on Electronic Art, being held in Manchester
UK.net-art98 is being run in cooperation with Department of Fine Arts,
Manchester Metropolitan University, organizers of ISEA98TERROR.Once  voters
are registered with the net-art98 database, they will be able to return  on
subsequent visits, choose to see only competing sites they haven't
previously  visited, amend their previous vote (voting only for sites the
voter has visited)  etc. up until the close of voting in December 1998.The
results, with  prizes, will be announced at the end of 1998.net-art98
includes  commentary by the nominations panel, linked and threaded
discussion of the  competing sites, a mystery Judge 'on auto' and reference
section for web art practitioners and  audience.net-art98 is produced on an
expenses only basis by Junction  15 ( http://www.j15.co.uk ) and
warp-interactive ( http://www.warp-i.com )Further information  in the first
instance can be obtained from +44 (0)171978 9868 or <mailto:andy@j15.co.uk>
andy@j15.co.ukhtml  of this nomination message
athttp://www.net-art.org/nominations_email.html


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From: rkafens@net56.net
Subject: Language Works
Date: Thu,  9 Jul 98 14:09:23 CDT

For immediate release

Contact:
Aldo Castillo Gallery
ATTN. Julia Friedman
Phone: 312-337-2536


EDUARDO KAC OPENS SOLO SHOW AT ALDO CASTILLO GALLERY, CHICAGO

Exhibition: Entitled "Language Works", the exhibition is comprised of 12
media works exploring
visual texts in changeable environments

When: The show opens on July 17 and closes on August 29, 1998

Where: Aldo Castillo Gallery, 233 West Huron, Chicago, Illinois 60610

Web: The show can be seen at http://www.ekac.org/languageworks.html

Curatorial Essay: "The Language Labyrinth" by Julia Friedman
(http://www.ekac.org/labyrinth.html)



The exhibition:

This month, Aldo Castillo Gallery presents "Language Works", an exhibition
by Chicago artist
Eduardo Kac curated by Julia Friedman. For 15 years Kac has been exploring
the poetics of electronic
and photonic media, investigating new writerly and readerly strategies. Of
the twelve works on
display, six are digital and therefore can only be experienced directly on
a computer. These six digital
works include runtime animations, a hypertext, and a vrml (Virtual Reality
Markup Language) piece.
Kac is also showing three Iris prints from his "Erratum" series, one
hologram from his "Holopoetry"
series, one single-channel video, and a video installation.

Some of the pieces in the show are interactive and invite the viewer to
navigate a textual space and
discover new meanings along the way. The Iris prints and hologram undermine
the fixity of the verbal
sign on the two-dimensional surface, extending their semantic ambiguity to
the unstable organization
of the verbal material. Other works, notably the videos and animations,
explore verbal rhythms that
can only be created once language is removed from stable surfaces and is
immersed in a malleable
electronic space.

Kac states that "language plays a fundamental role in the constitution of
our experiential world. To
question the structure of language is to investigate how realities are
constructed". For the artist,
"language (particularly written language) is nothing but a transitional
moment in a much more
complex semiological continuum. The show explores this notion in multiple
ways."



Biographical note:

Eduardo Kac is an artist and writer who works with electronic and photonic
media, including
telepresence, robotics, and the Internet. His work has been exhibited
widely in the United States,
Europe, and South America. Kac's works belong to the permanent collections
of the Museum of
Modern Art in New York, the Museum of Holography in Chicago, and the Museum
of Modern Art in
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, among others. He is a member of the editorial board
of the journal Leonardo,
published by MIT Press. His anthology "New Media Poetry: Poetic Innovation
and New Technologies"
was published in 1996 as a special issue of the journal Visible Language,
of which he was a guest
editor. Writings by Kac on electronic art as well as articles about his
work have appeared in several
books, newspapers, magazines, and journals in many countries, including
Argentina, Australia,
Austria, Bolivia, Brazil, Finland, France, Germany, Holland, Hungary,
Mexico, Paraguay, Portugal,
Spain, Russia, Uruguay, United Kingdom, and United States. He is an
Assistant Professor of Art and
Technology at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago and a Ph.D.
candidate in the Center for
Advanced Inquiry in the Interactive Arts (CAiiA), at University of Wales
College, Newport, United
Kingdom.. Kac has received numerous grants and awards for his work.



Recent awards:

The Shearwater Foundation recently announced the award of $10,000 to
Chicago-based artist and
writer Eduardo Kac to support his work and research. The Florida-based
Foundation does not accept
applications and recognizes individual creative excellence within its
stated areas of interest with annual
awards. CEC International Partners, New York, also announced that Eduardo
Kac was the recipient of
an ArtsLink Award in the amount of $3,500, and noted that "the review panel
was very impressed
with the quality of Kac's creative work". Earlier this year Eduardo Kac
received the 1998 Leonardo
Award for Excellence, which is awarded annually to a Leonardo author for an
article describing work
judged to be excellent in the field of art/science and technology. Previous
Leonardo award winners
have included Rudolf Arnheim and Otto Piene.



Additional information:

For more information see Kac's web site at http://www.ekac.org

Aldo Castillo Gallery

Tel 312-337-2536

Fax 312-337-3627

http://members.aol.com/artaldo

Eduardo Kac can be contacted via email at: ekac@artic.edu


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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:45:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Phil Agre <pagre@weber.ucsd.edu>
To: rre@weber.ucsd.edu
Subject: papers by Andrew Odlyzko

[Andrew Odlyzko at AT&T is one of those people who gets labeled a
contrarian, which simply means that his views are contrary to the
views of the people who do the labeling.  The irritating thing is
that his arguments are generally backed up with facts and make obvious-
now-that-you-think-about-it connections that refuse to go away.  See,
for example, his argument that the simplicity of the Internet is much
over-hyped -- if, that is, you include all of the complex effort that
is invested daily by zillions of site maintainers, effort that is
not required by phone-system "sites".  The point is not to defend the
phone system -- I don't think even AT&T does that -- but to move back
from a gadget focus to a system focus, which is always a good idea.]

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:29:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Odlyzko <amo@research.att.com>
Subject: request for comments on papers about networks

Five papers on data networks have just been posted on the Web at

  <http://www.research.att.com/~amo/doc/networks.html>.

Hopefully they will be of interest to you.  They are:

1. The economics of the Internet: Utility, utilization, pricing,
   and Quality of Service

2. Smart and stupid networks; Why the Internet is like Microsoft

3. Data networks are lightly utilized, and will stay that way

4. The size and growth rate of the Internet (with Kerry Coffman)

5. Dynamic behavior of differential pricing and Quality of Service
   options for the Internet (with Peter Fishburn)

All are available in PostScript (.ps) and Adobe Acrobat (.pdf)
formats.  Comments and especially corrections would be greatly
appreciated.


************************************************************************
Andrew Odlyzko                                      amo@research.att.com
AT&T Labs - Research                                voice:  973-360-8410
http://www.research.att.com/~amo                    fax:    973-360-8178
************************************************************************







Text abstracts:



                The economics of the Internet: Utility,
             utilization, pricing, and Quality of Service


                           Andrew Odlyzko


Abstract

Can high quality be provided economically for all transmissions on the
Internet?  Current work assumes that it cannot, and concentrates on
providing differentiated service levels.  However, an examination of
patterns of use and economics of data networks suggests that providing
enough bandwidth for uniformly high quality transmission may be practical.
If this turns out not to be possible, only the simplest schemes that
require minimal involvement by end users and network administrators are
likely to be accepted.  On the other hand, there are substantial
inefficiencies in the current data networks, inefficiencies that can be
alleviated even without complicated pricing or network engineering systems.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------




                      Smart and stupid networks:
                  Why the Internet is like Microsoft


                           Andrew Odlyzko



Abstract

Is the Internet growing primarily because it is a dumb network, one
that simply delivers packets from one point to another?  If that were
so, we surely would not need huge and rapidly growing ranks of network
professionals.  A more detailed look suggests that the Internet is
succeeding largely for the same reasons that led the PC to dominate
the mainframe, and are responsible for the success of Microsoft.  The
Internet offers an irresistible bargain to a crucial constituency,
namely developers, while managing to conceal the burden it places on
users.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------



              Data networks are lightly utilized,
                   and will stay that way


                       Andrew Odlyzko



Abstract

The popular press often extolls packet networks as much more efficient
than switched voice networks in utilizing transmission lines.  This
impression is reinforced by the delays experienced on the Internet and
the famous graphs for traffic patterns through the major exchange
points on the Internet, which suggest that networks are running at
full capacity.  This paper shows the popular impression is incorrect;
data networks are very lightly utilized compared to the telephone
network.  Even the backbones of the Internet are run at lower
fractions (10% to 15%) of their capacity than the switched voice
network (which operates at over 30% of capacity on average).  Private
line networks are utilized far less intensively (at 3% to 5%).
Further, this situation is likely to persisi.  The low utilization of
data networks compared to voice phone networks is not a symptom of
waste.  It comes from different patterns of use, lumpy capacity of
transmission facilities, and the high growth rate of the industry.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------




                The size and growth rate of the Internet

                    K. G. Coffman and A. M. Odlyzko




Abstract

The public Internet is still far smaller, in both capacity and traffic,
than the switched voice network.  The private line networks are
considerably larger in aggregate capacity than the Internet.  They are
about as large as the voice network in the U.S., but carry less traffic.
On the other hand, the growth rate of traffic on the public Internet,
while lower than is often cited, is still about 100% per year, much
higher than for other types of traffic.  Hence, if present growth trends
continue, data traffic in the U.S. will overtake voice traffic around
the year 2002 and will be dominated by the Internet.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------



        Dynamic behavior of differential pricing and Quality
              of Service options for the Internet

            Peter C. Fishburn and Andrew M. Odlyzko




Abstract

The simple model on which the Internet has operated, with all packets
treated equally, and charges only for access links to the network,
has contributed to its explosive growth.  However, dissatisfaction
with the delays and losses in transmission, and the requirements of
new services such as IP telephony, have stimulated the development
of methods for providing Quality of Service (QoS), and this will make
the Internet more complicated.  Differential quality will also force
differential pricing, and this will further increase the complexity
of the system.

The solution of simply putting in more capacity is widely regarded as
impractical.  However, it appears that we are about to enter a period
of rapidly declining transmission costs.  The implications of such an
environment are explored by considering models with two types of
demands for data transport, differing in sensitivity to congestion.
Three network configurations are considered: (1) with separate networks
for the two types of traffic, (2) with a single network that provides
uniformly high QoS, and (3) with a single physical network that provides
differential QoS. The best solution depends on the assumptions made
about demand and technological progress.  However, we show that the
provision of uniformly high QoS to all traffic is often best in the
long run.  Even when it is not the least expensive, the additional costs
it imposes are usually not large, and in a dynamic environment of rapid
growth in traffic and decreasing prices may well be worth paying to
attain the simplicity of a single network that treats all packets
equally and has a simple charging mechanism.


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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R.U. Sirius" <rusirius@well.com>
Subject: R.U. Sirius Starts THE REVOLUTION

http://www.disinfo.com/prop/diss/prop_diss_revolution1.html
spread the word

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 02:08:30 +0200 (MDT)
From: Pit Schultz <pit@wallace.khm.de>
Subject: ru sirius locates revolution

   Date:         Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
   From:         "R.U. Sirius" <rusirius@well.com>

The EXACT Address for THE REVOLUTION

It just doesn't pay to be elegant.  On July 4, I sent out email under the
title R.U. Sirius Starts THE REVOLUTION!.  The message was simple
www.disinfo.com
Spread the word

Simple.  Short.  Sweet.  Elegant.  The idea was that people would go to the
site, see that the lead article was Start The Revolution (With Or) Without
Me by R.U. Sirius.  And then they would respond to that.   But nobody got
it.

So, let me just say that I did NOT start a new site called DisInformation.
DisInformation has been a huge site for many years.  I have however started
THE REVOLUTION, which has close to 100 members and volunteers already.

The EXACT address for THE REVOLUTION is
http://www.disinfo.com/prop/diss/prop_diss_revolution1.html

and when I say, "Spread the Word"  that 's not just three random separate
words in a life full of utter fragmentation.  It's an invitation to
participate.  If you like.

luv
Sirius



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