Jon Lebkowsky on Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:03:47 +0200 (MET DST)


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<nettime> Follow the bouncing mail...


I don't know what this might have to do with the xs4all block, but my
latest mail to nettime (which was my latest response to Stahlman) bounced
with the following feedback:

From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Returned mail: Too many hops 26 (25 max): from <jonl@onr.com> via
smtp1.xs4all.nl, to <nettime-l@desk.nl>
To: <jonl@onr.com>
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)

The original message was received at Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:49:38 +0200 (MET DST)
from smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]

   ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications -----
<nettime-l@desk.nl>  (unrecoverable error)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 Too many hops 26 (25 max): from <jonl@onr.com> via smtp1.xs4all.nl, to
<nettime-l@desk.nl>

   ----- Original message follows -----

Return-Path: jonl@onr.com
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magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id AAA09359 for
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:50:15 -0500
To: Mark Stahlman (via RadioMail) <stahlman@radiomail.net>
From: Jon Lebkowsky <jonl@onr.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Is Reality Constrained?
Cc: nettime-l@desk.nl
	


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