Re: <nettime> recently published texts on networkcultures.org

[Allan Siegel via nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org>]

Hello,
Following up on some points made by Brian: this idea of re-elaboration 
is great - it would create a kind of conversational format where are 
others can join in; this becomes an expansion of the types of 
back-and-forth that exists already; an idea would be to find a way of 
indexing these discussions before they disappear into the digital clouds...

Also, I think, as Brian intimated, "polished things" is not the goal but 
rather the focus is imagining a discursive space where a wide range of 
discussions that can appear as in a public square: humorous exchanges, 
profound asides, off-the-cuff declarations etc... I would emphasize that 
Nettime-J is a magazine not a journal OR a bulletin board; what we want 
to develop is a framework that encourages, "actual dialogue and the 
exchange of ideas" (thanks, John).

best
allan



On 29/09/2023 17:49, Brian Holmes wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Nettime-j, it's a totally interesting idea. I would love to see 
> nettime become generative beyond its traditional format. In that 
> regard I tried Mastodon, but I'm just not into chat... or even, 
> incisive but isolated comments, which would be a more fair description.
>
> Many nettime posts could be published out of the box. I agree with 
> Allan that the heterogeneous side of the list should be preserved - 
> academic is fine if you feel it, but there are many ways to write.
>
> Most interesting for me would be a journal that requests from an 
> author or authors a re-eleaboration of some ideas that came out in a 
> debate. Because often these debates take place, and retrospectively, 
> the whole subject becomes much more expansive and interesting and 
> precise than one could perceive at the start.
>
> That would also discourage people from writing polished things that 
> are only posted on the list because the author wants to be published 
> in the journal. Instead we would just take what we are already doing 
> and push it further, toward something really original that reaches out 
> beyond its own charmed circle.
>
> all the best, Brian
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 7:05 AM Allan Siegel via nettime-l 
> <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     On 29/09/2023 11:57, Christian Swertz via nettime-l wrote:
>     > Maybe the journal can be innovative and traditional and open to
>     > academic and non-academic authors and audiences? So kind of
>     diverse -
>     > like the list? This can be done in a journal, for instance, by
>     > creating different departments. Or issues. Or papers. Or
>     formats. One
>     > department can be something like "HUMANities" and offer even peer
>     > review for those who like or somehow need it, while another
>     department
>     > might be "arTworK" where videos, photos, sounds, poems, stories ...
>     > are published.
>
>     I have nothing against academic journals - but I think the idea is
>     that
>     the 'language' we encourage is diverse and even bi-lingual if
>     necessary;
>     departments are a good idea, like sections or zones or playgrounds...
>     actually I like the idea of arTworK - sections with visual signs like
>     paths of discovery...
>
>     I am waiting to see if there are other responses to this idea; so
>     far I
>     have only seen yours and Geert's interest in the idea of a magazine...
>
>     best
>     a
>
>
>
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