Re: <nettime> closing nettime-l, uh?

[Sean Cubitt <sean.cubitt@unimelb.edu.au>]

adding my voice to the chorus: please don't close down

It's been a long time, we get older and tireder and have other priorities but the mailing list has properties that other platforms don't. Much of what;s been great about nettime is the off-channel threads it's spurred, other conversations, IRL events ...

I understand the fear of an aging subscriber base you mention in concluding the 'brief history'. There are plenty of brilliant young thinkers, activists, artists, and they may have their own channels and preferred media. But the cunning of age is not a resource to squander either.

The imminent collapse of the unified Internet linguistically, geographically, commercially and technically is one of the major new challenges; the relation between network media use and its ecological consequences (text v streaming?); the question of whether AIs will ever be allowed to fulfil their potential instead of endlessly trying to pass some tedious Turing test, the tyranny of post-truth ... and the wild potential locked up the toolset because, despite its rhetoric, capital is profoundly risk-averse and will not abandon its ways even faced with species suicide, the potential to gamble on a future worth the name, alterlife instead of afterlife : nettime still has work to do

with thanks to everyone who has made it possible to think this and share it

 

Seán

I acknowledge the Boonwurrong and Wurundjeri peoples of the Kulin nation on whose unceded lands I live and work

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Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 00:05:35 +0200
From: Francesco Mecca <me@francescomecca.eu>
To: nettime-l@lists.kein.org, Geoffrey Goodell <goodell@oxonia.net>,
        Felix Stalder <felix@openflows.com>
Cc: nettime-l <nettime-l@kein.org>
Subject: Re: <nettime> closing nettime-l, uh?
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Please, don't close the list. I have been a long time lurker but greatly enjoyed the content. It would be a great loss.

F.M.


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>On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 02:40:54PM +0200, Felix Stalder wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> if I look over the list traffic of the last 10 days, I don't see much energy
>> to continue the list. The only concrete offer to contribute some effort came
>> from Jan Wildeboer. I rally appreciate it, but technical care is only one of
>> the aspects that is necessary to make it worthwhile to continue the list.
>>
>> Thus, after many 'nottime' April Fools Day jokes, let's close the list for
>> real. At this point, I cannot see whom to hand over the list and there is
>> tldr.nettime.org which, of course, is vastly different from the list.
>>
>> Almost 8 years ago. Ted and I -- on invitation for a tactical media
>> anthology that hasn't made it to print (yet) -- wrote an essay of the
>> history of nettime-l.
>>
>> https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/51kMCK1qwBSqMwp97iv6Dj8?domain=nettime.org
>>
>> It's not without flaws, undoubtedly doesn't do justice to the many people
>> without whom nettime-l would not have come into existence in the first place
>> nor lasted for as long as it has.
>>
>> I'm sure someone will write a better history at some point, and if you want
>> to put something for them on the record -- that is into the archive at
>> nettime.org (and a few other places that also archive the list) -- the time
>> is now.
>>
>> For me, personally, nettime has been of tremendous value, intellectually but
>> also a source of deep and enduring friendships. My life has been better
>> because of nettime and I'm grateful to every contributor and lurker on the
>> list.
>>
>> Felix
>>

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