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Le 05/10/2020 à 19:31, Brian Holmes a écrit :
Our election is teetering. Why isn’t Europe writing about it?
Europe is writing a lot on it. I summarize : we are afraid for you.4 years ago, when an uneducated clown, financial loser, and pathological liar, was elected with the support of Russia through social networks algorithms, (we remember also that H. Clinton had 3 million more votes than BT), we have seen a confirmation of the collapse of democracy in US.
This collapse started years ago with the possibility to use social networks to manipulate voters. Obama initiated the method in 2008, and all the planet is now practising the same way.
This collapse started long time ago in US with the huge amount of money gathered by each candidate during the campaigns, bigger and bigger each year, allowing many possibilities of manipulation of voters. Impossible to buy democracy.
But this collapse is not only the collapse of democracy, but also the collapse of US society. We are afraid of the growing ignorance, people don't inform themselves trough real journalism work, but trough social networks algorithms construction. US digital and mediatic system magnifies all the toxic components of this destructuration: bigotry, racism, armed violence, irrationality, ignorance. No cultural cement holds the building anymore.
Worst, social networks algorithms have chopped the people in hundred thousands gated communities, non communicating with each others. Artificial collective identities. Micro-nazisms. We are afraid of the divisions of your nation, and of course afraid of the amount of guns in your country. The amount of guns in US has reached a summit of stupidity and danger. Just compare:
https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compare/194/number_of_privately_owned_firearms/66,69,192 The more people are divided and angry, the more they want to use their gun.Civil war is possible. If DT refuses to leave the power during the election chaos in november, any spark can launch a long period of chaotic armed troubles. With Covid prowling around the house.
In the Left and Green parties, in Europe, we were very happy, in 2019, to see Sanders almost elected as Dem candidate. Sanders/AOC would have been a so good refreshing spring. Biden is physically and intellectualy too old. I was personnaly confident in Sanders vs Trump, despite many analysis describing the contrary. It's the shame that the US left can not "invent" a better candidate years before the election. I hope AOC will emerge as a natural leader in the future, if any.
If Biden is elected, we hope that Kamala Harris can take the power and/or provide a good support and advices to Biden. But, for the results of this election, we think that Russia is the master of the game. For many reasons, Putin is very happy of the US collapse, that's why he supports Trump re-election. He perfectly knows that Trump is destroying the country. And Putin can also directely manipulate Trump. In french, we say, about Putin on Trump " il le tient par les couilles". Putin can release the golden showers tapes, or any other kompromat documents involving Trump, anytime.
One positive point in this dark landscape around election blocking, is the possibility of the biggest world financial collapse ever, following the election troubles, an essential cure for the planet's atmosphere. We don't forget that the main topic is that the planet is on fire, and that all usual resources will be exhausted in this century (energy, metals, biodiversity-food, etc).
The collapse of US in this elections could sign the inevitable & ultimate global collapse of capitalism, and start a long period of troubles and recomposition. In my opinion, it's better to assist to this collapse now, rather than later, because of the lack of resources if we wait more and accelerate ever more in front of the wall.
Cheers, JN
I wonder...lay it on...right-wing groups in Europe are emboldened by DT support for white nationalists? Is Europe waiting to see him voted out? What does Europe think about our violent protests? Trumps use of Antifa...how backward he is? Surely you must all be as eager as I for social change? The good that has arisen is all the young smart progressive politicians that have been voted in, the flipping of the Senate, Sanders and Warren working on committees...the life breathed into the Dem party, alongside #BlackLivesMatter and huge support for that movement. The times have changed in do many ways socially that the economy is going to have to change. Macroeconomics. Money is going to have to be put into new budgets. The whole place is a conversation that’s been trying to happen. What is the conversation in other countries? Molly On Oct 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Vincent Gaulin <gvincentgaulinjr@gmail.com> wrote: The election is a sorry excuse for politics, let alone democracy. There is no Left candidate. Biden is a human placeholder for the washed up hollow promises of neoliberal “normalcy”, and Trump is the cartoon version of a rich person with equally cartoonish ideas around governance (which isn’t to belittle the vast and very concrete destructiveness he has/is enacting). There is very little room in “the election” and mainstream discourse to attend to the pressing issues bearing down on everyday life. On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 5:16 AM Max Herman <maxnmherman@hotmail.com> wrote:Why is there nothing appearing here about the US election? I sound like a jerk to myself typing this but the silence is unexpected. Are we all too afraid to say anything, or all just busy with other platforms? # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:-- *G. Vincent Gaulin* 211 Keese St. Pendleton, SC m. 864-247-8207 # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:# distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
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