Tom Keene on Tue, 3 Sep 2019 12:06:46 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00


For me - as a long-time lurker - the benefits are about feeling connected to a wider network network of people engaged in both similar and contrasting kinds of thinking and doing. The list feels like it opens possibility of finding support in my future and current endeavours. Nettime is freed from some institutional and organisational politics (though they will always be ever-present) that makes different kinds of discussion possible. I don't have a problem with a sloooow drip as rapid lengthy discussion was frequently difficult to engage with during times of precarious work,  birth of young children, and in the midst of activst campaign.

I seem to be just visibly engaging so it would be shame for Nettime to fade away...
Tom K


On Tue, 3 Sep 2019, at 9:51 AM, Felix Stalder wrote:
I would try to reverse the question. Not what are the costs (which are
hard to calculate anyway), but what are the benefits. And if they
approach zero, then it's time to stop in a decent way (and archive the
list for good). There is no use to do useless stuff. There is enough of
that on the world.

For me, the benefits have decreased, but are they close enough to zero?
What could be done to increase them? What would constitute a benefit,
and to whom?

Felix


On 02.09.19 22:28, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> If the cost of running the list was exactly zero (let's not delve into
> details at this point), would you still kill it?

> If yes, then we have an interesting case of potlatch, without bonfire.



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