Re: <nettime> John Naughton on Shoshana Zuboff: 'The goal is to automate us': welcome to the age of surveillance capitalism

[Patrice Riemens <patrice@xs4all.nl>]

Well, as I understood Shoshana Z, the pb is that you cannot, in the 
current dispensation, legislate something that would destroy the very 
basis on which today's version of capitalism is based. Making data 
gathering illegal is not a tweak, it's system(ic) change.


On 2019-01-25 19:39, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> Right. Involving 'capitalism' into this is total bs., even an
> intentional sabotage - to make it look inevitable (as no one can
> imagine alternative for capitalism, surveillance must also be
> inevitable.)
>
> Motherf*ckers. So many vacuous words just to avoid mentioning
> possibility of simple legislation within existing legal frameworks.
>
>
>
> On 1/25/19, 10:09, carlo von lynX wrote:
> > Stop using leftist terminology (which makes Christian Democrats
> > and other peeps stop paying attention). What we are facing is a
> > facet of totalitarianism. Surveillance totalitarianism. We just
> > don't know who's going to be the big dictator at the end
> > (presuming that ten years into this game it isn't all sorted
> > out yet), and maybe we will never be told.
>
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