Re: <nettime> China needs more water. So it's building a rain-making net

Sorry, but what mediocre results? Where was the rain over the Beijing Olympics in 2008? And I suppose they've only been getting worse at it for the last decade?

Where does all the rain they've been seeding come from? The water supply of the atmosphere seems like a pretty zero sum game to me. It couldn't have anything to do with record droughts in other parts of the world, I suppose?

Oh, I forgot. Weather modification is still a conspiracy theory and therefore a third rail for actual discussion.

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Magnus Boman <mabmab@gmail.com> wrote:

So a relatively small number of researchers, one of which reports "promising results" to a Chinese journalist, and all of which are at best mediocre in the field, is paving the way for an installation of Tibet-placed burners for cloud seeding. How are we to trust the Chinese government with staying in full control of the cascading effects?

The autonomous vehicle quandary is a red herring. There are always other options than the ones given, in what is in fact never zero-sum games, Don't believe the Musk. They just want you not to think about other aspects of introducing autonomous vehicles. These aspects are again the results of cascading effects.
M.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:00 PM Felix Stalder <felix@openflows.com> wrote:
The drive towards geo-engineering is gather pace. It's hard to see this
as anything but dystopic. A kind of autonomous vehicle problem wright
large. And this problem goes like this: If the system detects two bads
(e.g. driving over an pedestrian or steering the car into a wall) which
one does it take? Now, if we change the weather patterns, whose weather
should improve? OK, it's not a zero-sum game like in the car accident
situation, but I doubt that this is an unambiguous win-win either. Felix

China needs more water. So it's building a rain-making network three
times the size of Spain

Stephen Chen

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2138866/china-needs-more-water-so-its-building-rain-making-network-three

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