nettime's_mod_squad on Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:26:37 +0200 (CEST) |
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<nettime> crowd-funding on nettime |
Hi, Nettimers -- It should come as no surprises that over the last few years, a growing number of people have sent crowd-funding announcements to this list. It hasn't been a steady rise, and the frequency is hardly significant -- one every few months at most. But, amidst a global trend of funding cuts in arts and culture settings, it seems likely that we'll see more. Some of them will be very deserving. Some. We try to bring a very light hand to moderating nettime, but these requests raise interesting questions. The list has over four thousand subscribers now. We assume -- we don't really know -- that you cut across an unusually wide range of contexts, practices, and geographies. Be that as it may, crowd-funding is a creature of the 'social networking' phenomenon, and particularly sensitive to the numbers game. In order to succeed, people seeking funding really have to *work* their social networks to monetize them. Maybe this list's subscriber base transcends a few degrees of separation in mainstream social networks, in which case the list could be an excellent vehicle for promoting requests; maybe those networks just recapitulate our own, in which case it would be a waste of time. If there were a slowly growing trend of people using nettime as a venue to distribute straightforward requests for money and we simply passed them on, it'd surely raise a few eyebrows. We recognize that sites like Kickstarter and Indiegogo, by serving as a 'transparent' reporteur of real-time funding results, can introduce many positive dynamics into the fund-raising process. But we also know that they've given rise to their own forms of opacity: people seeding and completing their own funding efforts, and, no doubt, kickbacks in some cases. We're not entirely sure that dignifying funding requests with a brand-name site and the buzzword 'crowd' is really so different from just asking for money in a publicly networked context. On the other hand, nettime's subscriber base has long been associated with some of the central themes that define 'alt' cultural practices -- if not exactly 'DIY' as it's often used today, at least a wide variety independent cultural and technical practices. On that basis, one could argued that nettime should adapt and, at a minimum, actively *support* these kinds of funding requests. Or, one could argue the opposite: that nettime has always resisted attempts (feeble as they were) to monetize its network; that it has always sustained an economy of non-monetary generosity; and that it should resist this attempt to monetize the social as well. Or, perhaps we should draw a line somewhere -- but where? We, the moderators, don't know, and in any case *we* shouldn't decide. So we thought we'd put these questions to you. Nettime's Mod Squad Ted Byfield and Felix Stalder # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org