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PRIVACY Forum mailing list <privacy@vortex.com> Paul Brigner: ISOC's amazing flexible man Seth Johnson: Brigner flunks on NN [Net Neutrality] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 23:44:20 -0700 To: privacy-list@vortex.com From: PRIVACY Forum mailing list <privacy@vortex.com> Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Paul Brigner: ISOC's amazing flexible man Paul Brigner: ISOC's amazing flexible man http://j.mp/Ho8dWB (This message on Google+) - - - You may recall some days ago I expressed surprise at ISOC's hiring of Paul Brigner for a key role. CNET discussed aspects of this controversial appointment at the time: http://j.mp/H6IWPT (CNET) Mr. Brigner when at Verizon was publicly opposed to Net Neutrality. When at the MPAA -- where he was before the ISOC hiring -- he specifically spoke and blogged in favor of PIPA legislation -- apparently expressing his own views, not just those of his employer. And all of these views in question would appear to be in direct conflict with ISOC positions. Now comes word that Brigner has become a foe of the SOPA/PIPA approach that he was vigorously endorsing such a short time ago. Fascinating. And how very convenient: http://j.mp/Ho7nsS (CNET) Of course people can have a genuine change of heart, sometimes dramatically. On the other hand, the great satirist Tom Lehrer wrote a song about a famous technologist whose views were those of ... expediency. I don't know Mr. Brigner personally. I'm not in a position to see into his head, or his heart. = But I still find it remarkable, with all the qualified people available who have been stalwartly supporting ISOC positions for many years, that ISOC made this particular choice -- and I have to wonder why. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein (lauren@vortex.com): http://www.vortex.com/lauren = Co-Founder: People For Internet Responsibility: http://www.pfir.org = Founder: - Data Wisdom Explorers League: http://www.dwel.org - Network Neutrality Squad: http://www.nnsquad.org = - Global Coalition for Transparent Internet Performance: http://www.gctip.= org - PRIVACY Forum: http://www.vortex.com = Member: ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com Google+: http://vortex.com/g+lauren / Twitter: http://vortex.com/t-lauren = Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 / Skype: vortex.com _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list http://lists.vortex.com/mailman/listinfo/privacy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 09:29:56 -0700 To: privacy-list@vortex.com From: PRIVACY Forum mailing list <privacy@vortex.com> Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Seth Johnson: Brigner flunks on NN [Net Neutrality] ----- Forwarded message from Seth Johnson <seth.p.johnson@gmail.com> ----- Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 06:49:40 -0500 From: Seth Johnson <seth.p.johnson@gmail.com> Subject: [ NNSquad ] Brigner flunks on NN To: Lauren Weinstein <lauren@vortex.com> Cc: nnsquad@nnsquad.org Brigner flunks on NN: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3D3159 (A good group of ISOC NY folks met up with Brigner in the Club Acela room in Penn Station. He mentions the Google-Verizon pact in a way that one might easily think suggests he was involved in it. He takes a "deregulation helps Verizon's engineers" line on NN, Joly MacFie alludes to an ISOC statement regarding NN, Joe Plotkin sets the NN discussion off in the right place, with good follow up by others including David Solomonoff. I would have asked him whether he was involved in GOOG-VZN, as there was indeed an advance in the policy discussion wrought by that deal and NN advocates missed a chance to use that to get the FCC on a productive track. However, Brigner doesn't get it. He thinks the reclassification of Internet as an information service was good, and that that "is working" -- which it is, for Verizon. He says "if it stops working," there will be a policy discussion on that and ISOC will be in the middle of that. And he says legislators aren't going to "let the Internet be abused by ISPs" -- all very, very telling statements. He then addresses a question about what layer he's talking about when he characterizes the issue in terms of regulation by moving immediately to decrying regulation of apps -- without addressing the character of the IP layer, let alone competition among ISPs [and end users] based on their access to lower layers. He then jumps to the lower layer "legacy regulations" which he calls a "major threat" to services and apps and protocols running on the network -- which they are, for a communications incumbent that decides it also wants to be an app [or Internet] provider. And he extols the fact ISOC has a group for dealing with regulating apps. Brigner completely outlines the colonization of ISOC, even if he personally doesn't think he's taking an incumbent line.) ----- End forwarded message ----- --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein (lauren@vortex.com): http://www.vortex.com/lauren = Co-Founder: People For Internet Responsibility: http://www.pfir.org = Founder: - Data Wisdom Explorers League: http://www.dwel.org - Network Neutrality Squad: http://www.nnsquad.org = - Global Coalition for Transparent Internet Performance: http://www.gctip.= org - PRIVACY Forum: http://www.vortex.com = Member: ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com Google+: http://vortex.com/g+lauren / Twitter: http://vortex.com/t-lauren = Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 / Skype: vortex.com _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list http://lists.vortex.com/mailman/listinfo/privacy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org