Re: <nettime> wikilazy arguing

[jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>]

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hi Morlock,

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 05:03:17PM -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> Not really. WL is an expression of technology.

not just that, because...

> In this particular case, the infrastructure for low-cost
> broadcasting (essential for consumerism) met infrastructure for
> secure communications (essential for maintaining the concept of
> property) and we have unintended consequences.

...what you define as "unintended consequences" can only be called so
from a NATO perspective (and not even so much anymore, looking at the
reasons why the Dutch government had fallen last spring).

even a document wikileaks disclosed a couple of days ago shows that
the consequences (not the messenger of course) aren't unintended: the
CIA Red Cell has scenarios on what would happen if US actions would be
considered under a different light http://bit.ly/aZSqQL

... gooooodmorning! that's what wikileaks should have been called:

goodmorning.us (and hopefully soon will be .it .cn .id .il etc.)

now read again your well formulated quote:

> In this particular case, the infrastructure for low-cost
> broadcasting (essential for consumerism) met infrastructure for
> secure communications (essential for maintaining the concept of
> property) and we have unintended consequences.

doesn't it just sounds like "information wants to be free"?

was it really unintended?

maybe you are right this is the expression of technology,
but not just that. there is something - someone - more.
and obviously is not just Julian nor is just a Team.

> The insiders didn't change, they just assessed risks as becoming
> acceptably low. This is what DoD is, correctly, after: to re-instill
> the fear of God into insiders.

almost sorry to say, don't take it as a personal attack, but sometimes
i wonder how old are you...  sounding like a '68s "missed revolution"
type, just a wee bit too smart and up to date to be as boring...  :)

ciao

- --
jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org

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