Florian Cramer on Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:48:08 +0100 (CET) |
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<nettime> Richard Stallman "no longer endorses" Creative Commons |
[I think RMS makes a valid and well argued point here, very similar btw. to critical opinions about CC voiced on Nettime. Note that even RMS's view that "some Creative Commons licenses are free licenses" is not shared by everyone (see http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html) in the free software community. -F] >From <http://www.linuxp2p.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10771>: LinuxP2P: In the last couple of years, independent media and entertainment seems has grown immensely. Just last week, CreativeCommons.org passed the 200000 mp3s indexed milestone. Most independent music, movies etc., use Creative Commons licensing. A lot of the independent artwork has been spread through P2P (Using legal independent artistry sites such as Jamendo.com and ccMixter.org, as well as manually by the artists themselves.). Apart from the obvious, which is that the GPL is written to cover software, what differences are there between generic CC licensing and the GPL? RMS: I have already explained the patent problem of MP3 format. As your question illustrates, people have a tendency to disregard the differences between the various Creative Commons licenses, lumping them together as a single thing. That is as mixed-up as supposing San Francisco and Death Valley have similar weather because they're both in California. Some Creative Commons licenses are free licenses; most permit at least noncommercial verbatim copying. But some, such as the Sampling Licenses and Developing Countries Licenses, don't even permit that, which makes them unacceptable to use for any kind of work. All these licenses have in common is a label, but people regularly mistake that common label for something substantial. I no longer endorse Creative Commons. I cannot endorse Creative Commons as a whole, because some of its licenses are unacceptable. It would be self-delusion to try to endorse just some of the Creative Commons licenses, because people lump them together; they will misconstrue any endorsement of some as a blanket endorsement of all. I therefore find myself constrained to reject Creative Commons entirely. Does Creative Commons publish the number of music files that are released under Creative Commons licenses that DO permit noncommercial sharing of copies? If so, could you give that number? LinuxP2P wrote: Apart from the obvious, which is that the GPL is written to cover software, It may seem obvious, but it's not true. The GNU GPL is written primarily for software, but it can be used for any kind of work. However, its requirements are inconvenient for works that one might want to print and publish in a book, so I don't recommend using it for manuals, or for novels. LinuxP2P wrote: what differences are there between generic CC licensing and the GPL? Nothing meaningful can be said about "generic CC licensing"--those licenses are more different than similar. The first step in thinking clearly about those licenses is to discuss them separately. LinuxP2P: Can the GPL be applied to artwork? For example, most of the people who submit wallpapers to KDE-Look.org submit them under the GPL, would the GPL's terms still apply, considering it isn't software. RMS: There must be some basic misunderstanding here. If a work is released under the GPL, then the GPL's terms apply to it. How could it possibly be otherwise? -- http://cramer.plaintext.cc:70 gopher://cramer.plaintext.cc # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net