Re: <nettime> Webbys reshape the web [3x]

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   Re: <nettime> Webbys reshape the web                                            
     marc <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>                                            

   Re: <nettime> Webbys reshape the web                                            
     { brad brace } <bbrace@eskimo.com>                                              

   Re: <nettime> Webbys reshape the web                                            
     JeremyUK@cs.com                                                                 



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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:42:13 +0000
From: marc <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Webbys reshape the web

The Webby award is no way, a worthwhile barometer of what is happening 
on the net creatively (never has been), it just helps those who are able 
to pay the cash, to be part of a 'naff' spectacle, and competitive 
cliche against other groups and artists, forcing them to hate each 
other, via idiotic jealousy- climbing over each other to get on-top of a 
delusory/heirarchical throne.

Personally, I would feel pretty embarrased to be part of such of a 
(false economy) system. I would prefer it, if smaller groups/projects 
are supported in a less 'combative', top-down way- by not putting them 
in the position of fighting against each other all of the time, like in 
a net-gladiator ring situation, it is an old-fashioned and cynical 
approach...it just ain't progressive, psychologically or emotionally.

We reshape the web in our own various ways, and this should be respected 
and acknowledged.

marc



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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:45:18 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: <nettime> Webbys reshape the web


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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:19:43 EST
From: JeremyUK@cs.com
Subject: Re: <nettime> Webbys reshape the web


In a message dated 11/22/2005 1:12:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
olia@profolia.org writes:


> What was so wrong with this year to remove it? I assume it is the
> category Sex which appeared in the list only once, in 1997. Back then
> adult content was in the order of things, part of online culture and the
> most developed part of the web. It would have been strange to ignore it
> and the web reality was still in a state that there was no pressure to
> do so.
> 
> In later years sex never appeared again as a category, under this or
> other names.
> 
> Now it is erased. Nothing will remind academics of International Academy
> of Digital Arts and Science, sponsors, business owners, graphic
> designers, PR managers and other sensitive souls that their online
> offices are built only some IP numbers away from the brothel.


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Digital sex is still very much around. You can't get away from it. 

Sometimes it is surreal trying to navigate the net and avoid it.

For example, researching the Philippines Islamic group MILF one might 
naturally go to: 

http://milf.org

..but that above URL leads to a porn site. The .com does also.

OK, so next you try the country code for non-profits in the Philippines:

http://milf.org.ph

..but that above page say the domain "is for sale."

Now, some frustration sets in.

Moving down the list of options, I try Google, searching for "MILF."

Again, I get tons of porno, but sifting a little, I get a glimmer of hope, 
"Moro Islamic Liberation Front" the results say with this web site address:

http://www.luwaran.com

I hesitate. 

Dotcom domains are usually for businesses, and the group I am looking for 
isn't a business. And what does "Luwaran" mean? But, what the heck, I'll trust 
Google, which may have a better sense of direction than me. 

Click. Presto. Excellent, I found it. 

Finally!

Navigating the net can be surreal at times, and sex is just under the surface.

^^Jeremy UK


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