Rob van Kranenburg on Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:21:06 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> The New Middle Ages |
thank you, brian. i think you point at a crux, this is the ongoing bet and from my point of view it seems like even more disciplining eating away even more personal space, but from the prisoners point of view there is always a finger you can move and if they immobilize that, well you can still click your tongue....althussers 'hey you' is now commodified in the dutch smokingpole http://images.google.be/images?q=rookpaal&hl=nl&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi where people stand outside (open roof structure) in trainstations and walk up, yes - walk up - to the smokingpole to smoke. in althusserian terms you'd still have to shout as authority, now you just commodify the shout and have people walking towards their own 'prison'. it is so strange to me that these two structural lines are so visible, one towards this selfdisciplining, and one towards this selfrealization, as if the default has become the schizophrenic. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net