<nettime> arrogance digested [jansen, recktenwald [x3], (phillips)]

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Re: <nettime> The braindead arrogance of Linux
     Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>
     Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@uni-bonn.de>
     Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@uni-bonn.de>
     Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@uni-bonn.de>

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From: Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>
Subject: Re: <nettime> The braindead arrogance of Linux
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:30:46 +0200

*Linuxers* are braindead  stupid arrogant, because *StarOffice* from 
*Sun* reuses an extension that someone else uses for something else but 
hasn't registered?

Please.....

On 7 Apr 2005, at 03:07, Heiko Recktenwald wrote:

> Sometimes, I think Linuxers can be braindead stupid arrogant in a very
> special quasi religious way. Or in the way of doctors that sell dubios
> essences on wild west markets in the movies. Open Source and post sale
> marketing, isnt it great to have a community?
 <...>

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:34:25 +0200 (CEST)
From: Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@uni-bonn.de>
Subject: Re: <nettime> The braindead arrogance of Linux

Thanks for the interest ;-)

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Jack Jansen wrote:

> *Linuxers* are braindead  stupid arrogant, because *StarOffice* from

OpenOffice does the same and NO, Linux is not braindead and I like
OpenOffice.

> *Sun* reuses an extension that someone else uses for something else but
> hasn't registered?

The registration is not so important, those who have developped RTSP
had better things to do than to think about the practical side, it is, as
far as it used at all, Broadcaster etc, just common, common like
audio/x-mpegurl and m3u.

IANA is just a registrar, nobody cares about such things, Linuxers (and
everybody else) must think about such things themselves.


Best, H.

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:49:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@uni-bonn.de>
Subject: Re: <nettime> The braindead arrogance of Linux

Dear Benjamin,

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Benjamin Geer wrote:

> On Apr 7, 2005 2:07 AM, Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> > Sometimes, I think Linuxers can be braindead stupid arrogant [...]
> > But SUN claims sdp for Staroffice!
>
> But you should file a bug report anyway.  At least the OpenOffice
> project *has* a public bug tracking system.  (Try that with a

Well, attacking Linux doesnt mean defending MS ;-)


Thanks for the idea!


H.

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:03:13 +0200 (CEST)
From: Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@uni-bonn.de>
Subject: Re: <nettime> The braindead arrogance of Linux

Dear Ed!

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, ed phillips wrote:

> huh? Heiko, is this a poem?

Isnt everything a poem? ;-)

> We aren't selling dubious essences necessarily. We are jumping into
> the Services world with all its travails; it is far less lucrative than
> working the ip game. It is "wealth killing" of a sorts, and has all

Well, the IP game, isnt GNU a part of it?
Havent read the OpenOffice licence.

> the potlach rank and pride through consuming wealth, using wealth,
> giving it away.

> I live the life of a waiter? un garcon? a gay science?

Paraplui, oui!

> Just what is quasi-religious? If its zeal you want, there is plenty of
> that, and plenty of disillusionment, zeal's little sidekick.
>
> Everything comes as a "distro" these days, and net theorists and net
> filters might be looked at as distros. I got the latest Lovink "distro"
> update in the physical mail the other day and enjoyed it immensely,

Ok:

> the principle of notworking, it could be dipped into and the various
> ideas are like separate programs, the conversations with other
> writers.
>
> up2date --dry-run  lovink_not_working_v4_u2.txt
>
> you've been linuxfried. an arrogant smirk is curling at the edges of
> your mouth. "may i help you?"

I think it is not enough to do the OpenOffice bug thing or wrap bla.sdps
in PHP, the spirit is allready out of the bottle sotosay, no idea how this
application/vnd.staroffice.impress got into Apaches mime.types file.

Maybe something like audio/mpegurl, which isnt at IANA as well, that some
Linux distro installed on millions of servers.

If this all is not "braindead", what is it else?

Best, H.

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