Aileen Derieg on Thu, 10 Mar 2005 04:01:41 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> de/fund/ed digest [rosler, hopkins] |
Hi John, You are right, of course, I am aware that external funding has become an accepted practice in some fields in higher education here in Austria, and probably everywhere else in Europe too, although I remember that it was controversial some fifteen years ago. I agree with Martha, though, that it makes no sense to me that people teaching in the humanities should be expected to "produce external funding". If university teachers are under pressure to devote more attention to fundraising than to teaching, as I have heard from several people now, and if university students are under (also financial) pressure to acquire practical skills and fulfill requirements to finish as quickly as possible, as I remember from some of the responses to Trebor Scholz' essay on media arts education some time ago, then what is really the point of a university education anymore? Why bother? I'm old enough and sentimental enough to regard a university education as something valuable and important, but I am beginning to wonder why anyone would bother with the expense and stress of it now. And yes, I am asking because I am concerned that we are headed in the same direction here. Aileen On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, nettime's_educrat wrote: > Re: <nettime> funding education? > martha rosler <navva@earthlink.net> > John Hopkins <jhopkins@uiah.fi> > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:38:44 -0500 > From: martha rosler <navva@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: <nettime> funding education? > > wait, this is not really an answer. <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net