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    Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?
      Novica Nakov <>

    Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?
      kath <>

    Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?
      Philipp Wassibauer <>

    Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?
      Dave Hollis <>

    Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?
      "Marcus Burkhardt" <>

    Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?
      "Millie Niss" <>


Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 01:21:21 +0100
From: Novica Nakov <>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?

> Anybody have any recommedations for Open Source Content Management
> solutions? I have my opinions, but I thought I'd ask the experts! ;->

It definitely depends on what are you looking for. Two good places to compare
most of the OS-CMS:

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:18:50 +0900
From: kath <>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems? is great. another one used for intranets is

which ones have you used?

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Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 08:32:39 +0100
From: Philipp Wassibauer <>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?


I used Mambo(www.*mambo*, TikiWiki ( and
Tikipro ( till now and am pretty pleased.

Mambo seems to be the cleanest and stablest one. I like Tikipro better
then Tikiwiki, since it is object oriented,  more organised and you have
more freedom to do what you want. But it still has a few bugs.

Furthermore there is Plone, Typo4, Xoop ... you will find all of them if
you search in sourceforge using CMS or Content Management Systems.




Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:04:09 +0100
From: Dave Hollis <>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?


if you can find a provider, plone -- I use it for my site 
( You don't need HTML and the projects on our site 
(most consisting of workers' initiatives who do not have a higher 
education) only need a little coaching to get going.



P.S. The site is mostly in German

Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:16:26 +0100
From: "Marcus Burkhardt" <>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?


I would recommend typo3. I worked with this system a year ago and to me it 
seemed to be a powerful tool for website creation and maintenance. Your 
can find more information about it under following urls:





Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 20:43:53 -0500
From: "Millie Niss" <>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Content Management Systems?

I have been working on a site with ez publish, which is a PHP/mySQL
(supports other databases as well) open source content management system.
The good things about it it that the pages on the site can have your own
look and feel, through a comprehensive template system, unlike some systems
(eg Postnuke) where sites usually look similar with variations of "skins" or
"themes" but not full freedom.  Another good point is that you can design
content classes for the system, which are the types of documents that can be
submitted/displayed on it.  You tell it what the fields are for your content
type (field type and size) and the field names, and then you make a template
for displaying content of that content class.  The content is searchable
through the fields you specify.  This is really important if you want your
site to have a database of structured information (that people may or may
not be able to contribute to), rather than just certain canned content
types, like "news articles," "forum posts," or links.  Ez publish also has
an object oriented framework for writing your own modules (applications) to
run on ez publish sites, but I haven't gotten to that level yet.  I am still
trying to make a basic site work with their applications.

I wouldn't recommend ez publish necessarily because I am still having
problems setting up my site.   There is a big hole in the documentation that
leaves out any information on my particular problem -- which is how to set
up user authentication:  Can you believe that their example site doesn't
implement any user authentication and that the only user-authored content is
guestbook entries, which can be made by anonymous (ie not logged in) users?
They don't tell you how to make the login page appear and how to configure
different classes of users to have content-writing priveleges!   I want
(like most people who bother to use a content management system) users to be
able to log in and submit content for the site, which would then either be
aitomatically posted (for some content categories) or would be forwarded to
the administrator or editors for approval by email.  It seems clear that ez
publish allows this functionality (some of the sites that use it which are
listed on the ez publish site are participatory and have user accounts), but
the section on user authentication just says "There will be [in the furture]
information here on user authentication."  It's very irritating.

The setup up to that point (installing, making basic templates, etc.) was
pretty easy and worked fine, although it did have A LOT of steps to do the
smallest thing.

I have previously used Postnuke and MPN which are much easier than ez
publish to set up and administer, but they are more limited and sites tend
to look similar to one another.  In researching content management programs
for my current site, I had geeklog as my second choice.  It seems to be like
Postnuke but more secure, and has good user support and documentation.  But
it is much more limited than ez publish.  On the other hand, had I used it,
my site might be up and running!  (Except that I need custom content

If anyone really loves some other CMS that uses PHP/mySQL, I would love to
know.  I have invested a lot of time in ez publish thus far, but not so much
that I absolutely wouldn't switch if someone recommended a system that is
fully flexible AND fully documented.

Millie Niss

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