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Re: <nettime> epistemological crisis for US tail-chasing politics |
mgoldh@well.com (Fri 10/01/04 at 01:45 PM -0700): > I'm not certain Breslin has all facts straight. The NY Times > specifically claims to use random number generators to phone pollees, > and if they really do, that should include cell phones. Breslin's and the NYT's respective claims aren't exclusive. The numbers may be generated randomly, but that doesn't preclude filtering the resulting pool against known criteria: commercial numbers, emergency and public-service numbers, fax machines, pagers, dead numbers, etc. Until quite recently, filtering out mobile phones would have been quite easy because the structure of the number delegations was so crude (an extreme example being an entire area code in the NYC area set aside for mobile devices, 917). The delegation patterns are becoming much more obscure for all kinds of reasons: numbers that formerly fell within landline delegations are now being recycled into mobile delegations; and legislation about number portability is blurring lines between landlines, mobiles, and VOIP lines. But it's not like the telcos that hand out these numbers don't know what these numbers 'are' in contractual terms, especially with mobile phones; and you can rest assured that pollsters have direct or indirect access to that info. In any event, Breslin is just reporting John Zogby's critique. > A different > question is whether potential Kerry voters and potential Bush voters > are equally likely to answer the phone, either because they don't want > to be charged for a cell call while a pollster offers along list of > questions, or because they screen calls or are out and about and > available less, etc. The Gallup poll claims more Republicans than > Democrats among its pollees, and that seems odd, quite possibly > indicating a biased polling method. but Ted's remarks below seem valid. Uninvited/impersonal calls to mobile phones remains, amazingly, a big no-no in the US. Cheers, T # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net