Vladimir Kovacevic on Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:32:25 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> One year After Rhizome |
It is good to hear something for Rhizome itself. But except that the whole Rhizome New Museum thing is somehow carified by Rachel Green all other points she makes in her email are questionable. But lets start at the beginning where Rachel Green put's down Rhizome as a pretty small and poor organization. > Hi -- Rhizome is not part of the New Museum: there was no merger > between the organizations. We are affiliated entities. The New > Museum has no legal responsibility for the ArtBase: Rhizome.org, a > small nonprofit that raises its own monies, still has these > responsibilities. Because the New Museum believes in the mission and > programs of Rhizome, in our staff (chiefly Francis Hwang and me) and > in the idea of art communities, they give us some administrative and > development support as well as an office in their building." So why a net.art competition with big money awards? I wondered about this in my first mail and I keep wondering about it as it is ignored in this email. > Rhizome has changed from what it used to be: as have net art and the > internet. The question as I see it is -- now that the floodgates > have opened and the field has opened up, will enthusiasts and > participants embrace the diversity and volume that comes with this > moment or will they lapse into nostalgia for times past, nostalgia > that devalues what is happening now? So a free accessable site or even less as for example a free accessable Artbase or free memberships for people that helped to build the community are Nostalgic ideas? Welcome to the Capitalist view of the internet. Long live websites that work with paid memberships and build their reputation upon the backs of volunteers! Hurrah! But whereas sites like Slashdot (mind the banners) that embrace diversity and volume can operate for free, Rhizome needs money and believes in a different more closed model. OK this is a choice, but there's still this past of Rhizome that cannot be ignored. How do you deal with all the people that contributed before the staff (Mark Tribe) decided for the paid model? And I don't mean that they are able to withdraw their works but I mean in a fair sense. They made Rhizome what it nowadays is, but have no other choice paying for membership or leave the building. An option would be to keep everything that was submitted to Rhizome before february 2003 free accessible. With this you wouldn't offend anyone. > Perhaps many will prefer to participate in the field via smaller, > more specialized forums such as Betacity. There is no right or wrong > way to consume net art or to participate in its culture, but there > are preferences. Rhizome the organization (the small arm that > administers various programs for the thousands of Rhizome readers > and participants from 100 countries) believes in letting the use and > content of Rhizome change with the ranks and numbers of subscribers > and members. And if you think that there aren't good writers > publishing on Rhizome I think you may have a particular set of > authors in your mind who qualify to shape discourse. Perhaps you > don't appreciate the diverse minds contributing to Rhizome but I > would encourage you to read more closely... and you always have new > forums such as Betacity or Cream." This seems to imply that Rhizome (staff) determines when and what model is suited best for it's members. This was my most fundamental critique a year ago. Mark Tribe presented a model (paid service) and this model was pushed through. There was no serious discussion about it. I only can fear for the next step, membership needs to be going up because Rhizome wants to offer new services nobody asked for. Here is the expansion argument that also can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/afterrhizome/AfterRhizomeCritique.htm Rhizome's only fair argument for asking money is expansion. You can ofcourse argue why community members have to pay for expansion while there's also a lot of funding money and there were also always a lot of gifts. You can also doubt what benefits the community has from a lot of these new services, as for example who needs rhizome.net webspace? But shouldn't we in the first place know if and why this expansion is needed. The expansion argument looks to me like an argument that is used by multinationals that only are focussed on the growth rates to satisfy their shareholders, but Rhizome has no shareholders... And there we have possible the weak spot. It looks like the Rhizome crew lost contact not with it's shareholders but with it's roots, and growth became a goal in itself, and now the crew is pushing forward without any self criticism or open to any criticism by others. An example of this is the $ 5.00 contribution. Though it was announced and it looked like there would be an open debate, the community never had a real vote in the $5.00 issue. Very reasonable suggestions as for example free access for people who had submitted projects to the artbase never were seriously considered if you ask my opinion. The Rhizome crew just pushed all things through without really listening. Alternatives like concentrating on one or 2 activities were never even considered seriously, instead Rhizome began more and more to act like a monopolist that wants to incorporate everything from artbase to the net.art courses and from mailinglist to internet provider because others could maybe get this marketshare. Rhizome is only acceptable to me when there's a reasonable Member Agreement and not some kind of license, when contributors are somehow equally rewarded, when there's a clear structure and no entangled interests between the people that manage Rhizome that are at the same time artists that use the organization for self- promotion. I believe that Rhizome could have gone other ways and serve the net.art community better without the Member Agreement, services nobody is waiting for and 5 bucks rule for everybody. Though the points I just touched could be easily changed I have my doubts they ever will, just because the plans Rhizome made in the past never changed. Just to prove this point I want to point to the standard strategy Rhizome's voice Mark Tribe always adopts, he is always playing the card that he listens, always expresses concern and last but not least his standard answer is "we will look into it". What means ofcourse he doesn't. This strategy of fake involvement is not only my personal experience but can also be checked in archives of several mailinglists like nettime. Just one example is of the net.artist META that forwarded his email "correspondence" with Mark Tribe to several mailinglists to open a discussion. The last emails from this correspondence confirms the fake involvement and the always well known answer that Mark Tribe has ready: "it sounds like it might be a good idea, we will look at it", what in fact means end of discussion. But enough of this, let's look at all the alternatives, that are free, plenty and sometimes offer an even a better quality. > Also, there are plans to do more curating out of the ArtBase in the > next year (2004-2005). We will also be developing online tools that > make it easy for Rhizome subscribers to curate their own > exhibitions, or more simply, create manifestations of groups of > works based on preferences, whims, interests. Nice, yet another expansion possibility that a lot of Rhizome members are dying to see. The competition with http://turbulence.org is now officially opened. > Finally, a new audit will be posted on our web site in the next > couple of weeks. Feel free to examine our spending in more detail. This is the least what Rhizome can do for it's community of paid members. Vladimir Kovacevic http://www.geocities.com/afterrhizome # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net