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Re: <nettime> wrong signals "Dani" <2w020f802@sneakemail.com> re; <nettime> wrong signals "Pieter" <smallaxe@xs4all.nl> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:48:56 +0100 From: "Dani" <2w020f802@sneakemail.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> wrong signals Ian Dickson <ian AT iand.demon.co.uk> wrote: > The pictures I saw (on the BBC) of cheering crowds in Iraq seemed to > indicate that lots of people in Iraq, those who know SH best, are > quite pleased with the turn of events. Not everybody is so happy. Read some blogstream media <http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2003_12_01_riverbendblog_archive.html#107160110508962507>. murphy <murphy AT thing.net> wrote: > Did anyone else notice that one of the "spontaneous demonstrations" > shown on TV had a number of communist flags waving? >From Riverbend blog (the link above): | central Baghdad was a storm of gunfire. The communist party were | scary- it's like they knew beforehand. Immediately, their red flags | and banners were up in the air and they were marching up and down the | streets and around Firdaws Square. My cousin was caught in the middle | of a traffic jam and he says the scenes were frightening. | | The bullets are supposed to be an expression of joy… and they | probably are- in a desert, far from buildings, streets crawling with | vulnerable people and cars. In Baghdad, they mean chaos. People were | literally ducking and running, trying to get out of the rain of | firepower because what goes up must, eventually, come down. - -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:28:37 +0100 From: "Pieter" <smallaxe@xs4all.nl> Subject: re; <nettime> wrong signals Ring ring braaahh Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:16:32 -0500 From: Rick Bradley <roundeye AT roundeye.net> Subject: Re: <nettime> wrong signals >The fallacy, discredited soundly 825 days ago, yet still so readily at >the hand of the ignorant ... >This conflict is being prosecuted in large part as a penance... >To put it as plainly as possible, we have been soundly and bloodily >instructed on the matter and the lesson is this: if we don't humiliate >Them They will kill us... Sorry, SH was not behind the 9/11 attacks as far as we know, nor did he have any links with OBL or AQ as far as we know. The analogy stinks, as does most of your argument. >it is stupid not to accelerate the war of attrition >against the radical hatemongers bent on turning this planet into a >Wahabbist acid-throwing honor-killing jihadi nightmare is asking for a >fucking wake-up call. Sorry, SH is not a Wahhabi. If anything he was yr average US-backed secular postcolonial dictator and had severe trouble over his infidel ways with his neighbors, as has been well documented. Have you ever visited an Arab country I wonder? You should. No more medieval than say Brussels I assert. Cheers, P. En overigens ben ik van mening dat vrije radio erkend dient te worden als derde, niet-commerciële, niet-publieke categorie van radio. http://freeteam.nl/patapoe ------------------------------ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net