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Re: <nettime> : Re: New Media Education and Its Discontent |
Nato Thompson wrote: (...) >"Intellectuals" (and I don't have nearly as much antipathy for them as >Mr. Flagan) could really use a PR team. But what would that require? >Possibly having things to say that are important to everyday people. >Maybe having a visible platform to discuss ideas (Possessing some aspect >of popular media might be nice.) Maybe being relevant and possessing >humility. > I wonder - what would this discussion look like if instead of "intellectuals" it were to analyse say "specialists " and/or "professionals". Who do you (plural) regard as "intellectuals" anyway? It seems such a vague term, and the definition of the group it actually refers to may vary much on the point of view and value system one choses to apply. But if we talk about "professionals" and/or "specialists" I may discuss the language they use, the auto-referenciality, the group dynamics, the mechanisms of inclusion and exclusion, and other topics possibly relative to how "professionals" and "specialists" operate and how they relate to the world. And that might actually result in one possible response to "why do the so called people and masses distrust and misunderstand the "specialists" and the "professionals" (and vice versa, why do the "professionals" and "specialists" distrust the masses)." I also wonder... "Are" politicians really "intellectuals" and/or "professionals" and/or "specialists" ? "Are" highschool teachers "intellectuals" and/or "professionals" and/or "specialists" ? "Are" lobbyists "intellectuals" and/or "professionals" and/or "specialists" (or non or all)? Does it depend on their motivation? Does it depend on their sincerity? Does it depend on the fact they do or not write their own speaches? Can persons who don`t write a single word they say in public be considered "intellectuals" or "professionals" or "specialists" (or non or all)? Can a public image possess humility? Who "is" everyday people? >Looking into Alexis De-Tocqueville in his Democracy in America, you find >a clear analysis of this dilemna. And I feel it is a dilemna. Currently, >we are witness to the incredible advantage the right wing has in >positioning themselves as the "everyday people's" party. It is used over >and over again. "Contract with America??????" > >I don't particularly think those weened on October magazine and Critical >Inquiry have even conceived of themselves as bowing down to a people's >critical theory but it would be nice. Or not. I am not sure. Ok. Some >intellectuals might be a waste of time. But for those that are not, >alas, new strategies are in order! Generally I find the likes of Michael >Moore who manages to popularly voice critique a signpost for radical >strategies. For intellectuals. I suspect this issue is larger than the >classroom. > > So the discussion of "intellectuals" "is" about "left wing intellectuals", or am I missing something? So the right wing persons "are not" "intellectuals", or am I missing something? As a student I see very little point in striving to become an "intellectual", but I also see as little point in the so called anti-intellectualism. For, as I said, it is a term so highly sensitive to the value system and the point of view and even moods of the person who uses it, that it seems to me irrelevant. Yes, I understand the need to always sharpen ones skills (intellectual, emotional, artistic, scientific, ecc.) so that one can better understand the situations, act in relation to them and communicate to others. But the ways to do that are so varied in todays society of numerous specializations, instrumentalisations and commercializations that I prefere to see my own self-improvement or education or whetever you may call it as an open ended and continuous rather then goal-oriented research. It is not about convincing anyone I am or am not an "intellectual", it is not about who I am, it is what am I considered, it is about what I learn, understand, and do each day that counts, in itself, to me. How I make money will probably be something apart from that and only in some way connected. Now that I look back at my teachers I realise at best they were links and linkers. And that is the most a teacher as far as I am concerned should strive for - to offer many and various links to information, to offer many and various possible interpretations of information, and tools for interpretation, and questions, and doubts, and a place (classroom) where all that and more can be tested and confronted. The teacher should, IMO, in a way, maybe, be just an older student, who has spent more time on a project and so can help along someone who is only starting. This is an attitude I sometimes encountered amongst SOME OF the people who study and develop information (and other) technologies (certainly not all). Thank you for your attention. NULL # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net