Eduardo Navas on Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:28:04 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> the matrix returns - Re: nettime-l-digest V1 #1134 |
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Jones" <liminal18@mac.com> To: <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 11:14 PM Subject: RE: <nettime> the matrix returns - Re: nettime-l-digest V1 #1134 <--snip--> > Was I the only person who thought The Matrix was going > to be William Gibson like, and discovered it to be a mostly > boring action film? Hadn't really thought about how the world > of the matrix takes in all these different philosophies, but > is knowing Baudrillard really that much of an achievement > in this day and age? And for that matter sucking the life out > of Baudrillard isn't a bad thing to do, and to some extent > neither is it with Neitzsche. While both thinkers of great > weight, perhaps their reception into popular culture will > help spur some new thoughts. <--snip--> My comment was a response to Francis Wang's rhetorical question: "Certainly, if you're teaching an Intro to Philosophy course you'd do well to draw The Matrix into your class discussion -- above all, keep your students' attention -- but does the film truly reward such analysis?" Many cultural producers watch several movies throughout the years because films are one of the main resources to develop new material. So, yes, new ideas can come out of commercial practice. I will add that new concepts, hopefully, will be written with a political understanding. A problem that the essays that started this thread all share, which can also be found as a book by the way (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/081269502X/102-6588547-246891 5?vi=glance) is that, much like modernism, the philosophers writing on The Matrix tend to suspend the political role of appropriation. This omits the possibility for discussions where students can relate the complex theories not only to a 'cool' movie, but also to how relocating previous ideas functions in contemporary culture at large. It is up to each educator to point to a wider contextualization. At least the few comments made available on Amazon expose philosophical platforms using The Matrix as a fictional stage, much like a pedestal a la Gabo, instead of a politically/culturally aware art work a la Tatlin. (Gabo isolated his sculptures in an ideal space while Tatlin always incorporated these to the actual architecture of the building: see Russian Constructivism) So, yes The Matrix should be taught in classrooms, but not with a suspended depoliticized approach, but rather with the aim to create cultural awareness. And hopefully new ideas will develop, both inside and outside popular culture. Unfortunately, depoliticization usually dominates pop culture due to its mass appeal. Best, Eduardo Navas http://navasse.net http://netartreview.net # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net