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Table of Contents: Re: <nettime> hip hop digest vol. 4 [sonar radar, eyescratch, mcgee] Carl Guderian <carlg@vermilion-sands.com> Re: <nettime> hip hop digest "McKenzie Wark" <mckenziewark@hotmail.com> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 15:28:08 +0100 From: Carl Guderian <carlg@vermilion-sands.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> hip hop digest vol. 4 [sonar radar, eyescratch, mcgee] Why did anyone think hip-hop would be immune to Sturgeon's Law (90% of everything is crap)? Anyway, there's so much of it, that you'll never have time to hear even the good 10%. Bennu's lament sounds like an intellectual heart being broken yet again; another vicarious revolution frittered away. Cop-Killa' Ice-T did at least work with Jello Biafra, and the cover to "Home Invasion" nailed gangsta rap's appeal for white boys (and for awhile I was treated to 20-something guys saying "beeyotch" in the office). Punks let the intellectuals down, as did rockers before them. If it's Marxism you want, there's always The Coup. If you want revolution, do the revolution first and let the soundtrack come later, not vice versa. That's intellectual pedophilia--hanging around angry young musicians and hoping to refine their raw lyrics into correct theory, thus sparking the revolution. It was entertaining when Greil Marcus did it (though Lester Bangs was more fun to read), but in the nend it's just creepy. If Bennu's had it with hip-hop, then good. The sooner intellectuals write off hip-hop, the better. Then it can be itself, for better or worse. Carl (occasionally DJ REX84) nettime wrote: > Sonar Radar <intothegloaming@yahoo.com> > Re: <nettime> hop hip digest [fusco, williams, porculus, butt] > > eyescratch <eyescratch@terminal.cz> > Re: hip hop is dead > > Art McGee <amcgee@freeshell.org> > Re: A Eulogy to Hip Hop > > ------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------------------------------------- > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:26:50 -0500 From: "McKenzie Wark" <mckenziewark@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> hip hop digest I would like to juxtapose something Art said: "we created it... we feel a sense of ownership" with something Paul asked: "who speaks through you?" and Coco's concluding remarks about the "performance of blackness" under the imperative of commodification. One thing i find interesting is how the regime of intellectual property intervenes directly in the process by which an organic form of creative expression within a community becomes a performance for the other. At a certain point, artists are selling themselves not to businesses that emerge out of their own community (Sugarhill, Tommy Boy) but to the media business in general. This may be direct or indirect. There are black-owned and operated labels, studios, management companies. But at some point these become mere subcontractors for the industry in general. One might pursue the intellectual property question in two directions: 1. who is it sold to? Who ends up in possession of culture as commodification? And specifically a music based on sampling: 2. who is the raw material bought from? What could be more emblematic of the new regime of information slavery than Moby making hits from Alan Lomax's field recordings of field hollers and press-gang chants? Rather than dispense with the category of 'authenticity' altogether, why not turn it around? In the 80s, the intellectual trend was to deny authenticity to everything. Why not reverse it (as Missy Ellot says) and look for the authentic expression in all cultural artefacts? What i hear in mainstream rap (in New York stations like 105.1) is the final stage in the transformation of communal cultural possession into dispossession and privatised intellectual property. Which is entirely of a piece with the performance of Blackness for an other, as filtered and selected for its usefulness for a white audience. This process of filtering and selecting a Black performance for a white audience seems to me to have a long history. But perhaps it has different stages. I'm not entirely sure that rap had the same process of commodification as, say, jazz and soul. The digital technology of the sample and the massive tightening of the intellectual property regime of the last 20 years seem to me to catch it in a pincer movement, one opening up new possibilities for expanding creativity and the other closing it off. Just listen to the difference between early Public Enemy, with thousands of uncleared samples in each track, to their later stuff, which like everyone else is taking a bare few samples and looping them. Their early claim to repossess all of Black music as its cultural inheritance (indeed all of music, period) gives way to the constraints imposed by the $1500 per sample fees of major labels). So who (or what) speaks through rap? Its polyphonic, like all popular culture, but perhaps one can hear a very contemporary sound of racial oppression that is not only expressed in, but now *takes the form of* the commodification of information. One of the things i hear in it is a discourse on its own process of production. Missy Elliot may be rapping about her sexual prowess, but it is also about her prowess as a producer of herself as commodified information, her auto-vectoralization. It's OK to perform yourself for another, she says, so long as you get paid for it. The sense in which one can take that is sexual, racial, or vectoral -- or all three at once. ___________________________________________________ http://subsol.c3.hu/subsol_2/contributors0/warktext.html ... we no longer have roots, we have aerials ... ___________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net