Keith Hart on Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:59:25 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> joxe's empire of disorder |
Felix, I am not suggesting that Manhattan in 2000 is the same as Constantinople in 1000. Obviously two centuries of machine revolution have made a big difference to the way we live. I was just trying to correct a myopic tendency to think of change as whatever is considered new by a self-selected minority of the world's population. I was trying to say the world is a lot older than we often like to think. More specifically, I argued that the fusion of capitalism with the state in the last 150 years led to a highly dangerous synthesis of agrarian civilization and the machine revolution, leading to a century of war, genocide and appalling disaster. It was indeed the first world war that provided the crucible for discovering the modern state's talent for mass murder, although the American civil war was the first proof of that, the key event in the launch of state capitalism. Nor was I thinking of medieval Europe as the origin of the institutional complex I described. It was in fact Mesopotamia 5,000 years ago that inaugurated Childe's 'urban revolution'. Here cities, the state, money as we still know it, writing, bureaucracy, the first stirrings of world religion all emerged at once, so that a small urban elite could control an unfree rural labour force. I have always considered it one of Marx's great contributions that he realised capitalism was an extension of that system of extraction (from surplus labour to surplus value). But the liberal revolutions of which I wrote were against the state, as were most progressive movements of the mid-19th century, and that is what distinguishes them from a neo-liberalism that depends on state power. Although I admit to some rhetorical excess, I was challenging a modernism that claims we have somehow escaped all that. How can we explain that 4 in 5 Americans today think that God loves them? That the main opposition to the way the world is run now comes from the adherents of the last world religion to be invented? That the US government is actively contemplating bombing Baghdad as a solution to its problems? Another name for Iraq is Mesopotamia, of course. It is curious that the leading power of our 'modern' world should pick it as a target. Maybe as a way of sustaining the mantra that agrarian civilization is dead and we are different. We are differnt, but also profoundly the same. The scary part is what happens when people pursue the old purposes with the new means at their disposal. Keith # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net