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Re: <nettime> Space of Flows: Characteristics and Strategies "Elnor Buhard" <buhard@mail.com> "wade tillett" <wade@thefrictioninstitute.org> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: "Elnor Buhard" <buhard@mail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:28:40 -0500 Subject: Re: <nettime> Space of Flows: Characteristics and Strategies i have some issues with the concepts of flow described below, in particular to the claim that they are newly unstable. maritime flow, and trade routes in general, are historically quite volatile.... (e.g. trade, language, + power on the niger river, around the 13th century in present-day mali). glancing at the record, it seems like flows were just as subject to change, things were structurally quite similar although admittedly with a much slower clock speed. the emergent trend seems to be within the nodes themselves. in particular, they are getting much more parallel. korean corporations that make cars + tvs + buildings + etc (vs. dutch east india trading company, who were just into ships). people that eat diets with 12 different nutritional balances overlaid (vs. a traditional diet of a staple, like rice or bread, and small seasonings). a lifetime with five different jobs, artist writer curator professor grants manager (vs. a corporate job ladder). perhaps the distinction is that nodes now have several different flows overlaid, crossing through them, the entity is a bustling hive of presences. this new music of the individual is not just faster, but filled with instruments of unprecdented variety, style, origin. elnor buhard ----- Original Message ----- from: Felix Stalder <felix@openflows.org> date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:30:46 +0100 to: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net subject: <nettime> Space of Flows: Characteristics and Strategies [This is a slightly revised version of a talk I gave at the Doors of Perception conference called "Flow: The design challenge of pervasive computing." http://flow.doorsofperception.com ] Space of Flows: Characteristics and Strategies ============================================= Felix Stalder <felix@openflows.org> <...> -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup One click access to the Top Search Engines http://www.exactsearchbar.com/mailcom - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: "wade tillett" <wade@thefrictioninstitute.org> Subject: Re: <nettime> Space of Flows: Characteristics and Strategies Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:08:19 -0600 nodes can control the rate, the quantity, the quality, the exchange at specific points only. also, however, is the possibility of controlling the flows via the relation of flows to their medium. one can do this by: *changing the medium (control what the medium can support, control the code), *changing the route (the possibilities within the medium), *or by managing the confines of the medium (the possibilities of the medium) regarding the last possibility. in order to create an emergent object based on flows, a false environ can be constructed in which the limits of possibility are hidden (well, somewhat) to those within it. the consumer environment, the free trade environment... free movement contained in a bubble. a sort of flow terrarium. (profit is extracted via invisible nodes) to control the phenotype, one can control the genotype - or one can control the environment. (for the most effective control - both simultaneously.) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net