<nettime> USA Today digest [opaqueyes, yacub, mand]

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=?iso-8859-1?Q?=83?=  <opaqueyes@earthlink.net>
     Re: <nettime> TIPs designed for Domestic Spygaming
ernie yacub <yacinfo@mars.ark.com>
     Wall street quote of the day
"mand" <me@onemoremonkey.com>
     Re: <nettime> HACKING LEGALIZED

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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:25:23 -0500
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=83?=  <opaqueyes@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: <nettime> TIPs designed for Domestic Spygaming

  maybe there could be a TIPsters-list, much like
  RISKs-digest, which compiles all of the regular
  and never-accounted-for abuses in everyday-to-day
  operations. Such as -- when calling a company,
  one's voice is recorded ("for quality assurance
  purposes only") while one is not able to record
  the company representatives who often will not
  reveal their name, or give wrong information,
  yet leaving consumers, er, citizens, with no
  recourse for fraudulent business practices, or
  faulty information which is impossible to prove
  without recorded documentation (ie, "it is always
  the customers/citizens fault" as a best practice).

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From: ernie yacub <yacinfo@mars.ark.com>
Subject: Wall street quote of the day
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:49:08 -0700

"It's a pitiful market ... It's an emotional market that is selling on fear," 
said Brian Pears, head of equity trading at Victory Capital Management. "It's 
fear that there is something drastically wrong and if I hold on, my portfolio 
will collapse. It is fed by these daily declines of 2 to 4 percent. It's 
irrational." 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020722/bs_nm/markets_stocks_dc_20&cid=568

ernie
"I like to watch."  Chauncey Gardener in Being There

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From: "mand" <me@onemoremonkey.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> HACKING LEGALIZED
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:24:48 +0200

We are all copywrite owners so this legislation would make it legal for
anyone who had a "reasonable suspicion" that someone was illicitly trading
their copywrite material to hack into that machine and at minimum look
around and verify that suspicion.

If any damage is thereby caused it is up to the person whose machine has
been hacked to prove damages. Under the proposed legislation that person
would only be able to get recompense if the damage was over $250

mand
http://onemoremonkey.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mandl" <dmandl@panix.com>
To: "Nettime" <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: <nettime> HACKING LEGALIZED


> {...for record companies)
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http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=technologynews&StoryID=125292
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> Bill Lets Music Firms Hack Napster-Like Systems
> Last Updated: July 25, 2002 04:09 PM ET
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