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   RE: Re: <nettime> the language of tactical media                                
     "Derek Baker" <derek {AT} perfectfit.net>                                            

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     "N Jett" <njett {AT} hotmail.com>                                                    



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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:07:10 -0700
From: "Derek Baker" <derek {AT} perfectfit.net>
Subject: RE: Re: <nettime> the language of tactical media

Also Read: When Corporations Rule the World by David Korten. The entire
second half of the book is dedicated to resolving 'the problem'.

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[mailto:nettime-l-request {AT} bbs.thing.net]On Behalf Of Benjamin Geer
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:02 AM
To: nettime-l {AT} bbs.thing.net
Subject: Fwd: Re: <nettime> the language of tactical media


On Friday 05 July 2002 10:13 pm, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> [someone else] wrote:
> > As a very liberal democrat, I keep waiting for the anti-globalisation
> > freaks to offer an alternative to the status quo ... but you never do.
> > If they ever offered the first first idea on how to "better" govern then
> > I would be their greatest champion ... but all I ever see is
criticizism.

Michael Albert, editor of ZNet (http://www.znet.org), has what I think is
a very sensible proposal called `Participatory Economics', about how
regional economies could be run on the basis of participatory democracy.  
He's written two or three books about it:

http://www.parecon.org

Ben


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Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 20:19:18 +0000
From: "N Jett" <njett {AT} hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: <nettime> the language of tactical media


Ah yes... Parecon... no longer shall we have surgeons and janitors,
instead there is just the person who takes out your trash, and your
appendix (and gets paid more for the trash because surgery is
"glamorous"). His "Balanced Job Complex" idea seems like a very unfunny
joke to me. The whole "committees to decide absolutely everything" concept
is kind of a joke too, but no need to get into that here...

The Parecon project may be an "alternative", but it certainly seems
unfeasible and unattractive and extremely unlikely to go anywhere beyond
the minds of the radical intellectual elite. Hopefully he isn't on this
list too, the guy gets rather feisty when challenged.




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