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     Re: <nettime> How We Made Our Own "Carnivore" \ What Rhizome.org Eats

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From: integer@www.god-emil.dk
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 20:25:45 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Re: <nettime> How We

>From: Randall Packer <rpacker@zakros.com>
>Subject: Re: <nettime> How We Made Our Own "Carnivore"
>
>In my mind, it is important to keep in mind that the Carnivore 
>software itself is the focal point of the project. At this early 
>stage, I think the applications being developed are skimming the 
>surface of what is possible. The use of network data to generate 
>real-time visual and musical experiences is clearly in its infancy. 
>But Carnivore has effectively carried out an appropriation of 
>Government surveillance systems - used to spy on cyber traffic - to 
>open the door to new aesthetic possibilities that transform these 
>systems and these data structures.
>
>Randall


nebula.m81 [http://www.eusocial.com/nebula.m81]
did so [in a much more elegant manner] in 1999 and was censored by rhizome personnel

242.mikrosoft [http://www.eusocial.com/242.microsoft] dis so in 2001 and is censored by cycling74 personnel



Randall Packer as the vast majority of simply.dekorative insiders is lagging 1+ dekades
lazy + konvenient in the most dangerous maniera _ 


nn




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From: integer@www.god-emil.dk
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 20:34:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Re: <nettime> How We Made Our Own "Carnivore" \ What Rhizome.org Eats

rhizome.org rewriting history:

> 1) artist-made diagnosic clients created by leading net artists around
> the world

Florian Cramer 

>Concerning the rest:

both failed to mention that the translation of "leading net artists around the world"

is: persons around the world whom rhizome.org employees contacted and ...


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To: integer@www.god-emil.dk
From: alex galloway <alex@rhizome.org>
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At 10:19 PM 10/29/2001 +0100, you wrote:

> >nn,
> >
> >http://rhizome.org/carnivore/
> >
> >we would be honored if you would make a carnivore client...
>
>are you going to pay me +?


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how the plantation inspired net art mafia system operates



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             \            \/       i should like to be a human plant
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                                   i will shed leaves in the shade
        \_\                        because i like stepping on bugs



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Netochka Nezvanova                   nezvanova@eusocial.com
                                    http://www.eusocial.com

                                http://www.ggttctttat.com/!
   n  r  .   5        !!!      http://steim.nl/leaves/petalz
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