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Miles Nordin <carton@Ivy.NET> Re: <nettime> RE: RHIZOME_RAW: GENERATION FLASH (2 / 3) Peter Luining <email@ctrlaltdel.org> Re: [Nettime-bold] pre(?)- GENERATION FLASH (1- 2 / 3) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Subject: Re: <nettime> RE: RHIZOME_RAW: GENERATION FLASH (2 / 3) From: Miles Nordin <carton@Ivy.NET> Date: 22 Apr 2002 17:24:18 -0400 The driving force behind FLASH's internal design is being intensely bandwidth-miserly. Why? Because people only care enough about FLASHturbations to spend like 1 minute tops downloading them. Not only would people laugh their heads off if you asked them to _pay_ for these cracker-jack prizes, but they won't even wait more than 60 seconds to get them for free. That's why a 1Mbyte plug-in download is enough to totally kill off the Revolutionary New Media Platform of the Future. <shrug>. Give me a call when you rediscover the MBONE's whiteboard tools, or something else that's actually useful. The ``FLASH aesthetic'' is the aesthetic of the screensaver. Can you imagine a FLASH version of ``El Fish,'' that old Windows 3.1 screensaver that used a genetic algorithm to breed fish? Unlike AfterDark's fishtank-plugin, the fish in El Fish would mate with each other, and no two computers had the same fish. It let you import and export copies of fish from your tank to ``floppy disk'' (an ancient pre-'net physical object for storing data) and share them with friends. Envision the re-release El Fish as net.art. It would blow everyone away. It would be the greatest art project ever, because it ``mimics biology'' or something, makes some kind of powerfully cynical statement about the fundamentally Darwinian and thus retrograde color of Biopower. It would be enshrined on a Zenith 386 in the Guggenheim museum. but this is EL FISH, a program mentioned once in PeeCee Mag ``First Looks'' and then never heard from again. I guess we were all just too stupid back then to recognize the potential of El Fish to challenge the traditional relations among humanity. -- THE STARBASE MELMAC LIST IS FOR ALF FANFIC ***ONLY*** AND NOT A SPRINGBOARD FOR YOUR LOONY FREE SOFTWARE ADVOCACY! -- Mr. Bad - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:50:49 +0200 From: Peter Luining <email@ctrlaltdel.org> Subject: Re: [Nettime-bold] pre(?)- GENERATION FLASH (1- 2 / 3) mmm... probably a little late, because i was busy but: html/ flash/ and shockwave remixes... pre(?)- GENERATION FLASH Peter FFOOFF remixes januari 7 2000 <">famous<"> net.art/sound pieces remixed infoslut - coltrane [blank-A remix] jodi - %20-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-..._........ [pure %100 remix] turux - block 4 -4 [ohx remix// fragment] lfoundation - 6.521.087.401 [purplepain remix] antirom - steel drum breakdown [b/rundy remix] kalx - voltaic [.33 ambient remix] antiorp - unitiztress [maszakR_4x remix] http://www.xs4all.nl/~real/FF00FF/ more info: http://rhizome.org/object.rhiz?1891 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net