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a note on violence (was: Re: <nettime> Islam and Tactical Media on Amsterdam Cab "Pieter" <smallaxe@xs4all.nl> Re: <nettime> Islam and Tactical Media on Amsterdam Cable proff@iq.org (Julian Assange) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 03:42:30 +0200 From: "Pieter" <smallaxe@xs4all.nl> Subject: a note on violence (was: Re: <nettime> Islam and Tactical Media on Amsterdam Cable) a note on violent tactics from yrs truly: "Suppose there's a war and nobody showed up." -- Well-known 60's saying. "Suppose there's a riot and everyone showed up." -- Not so well-known 80's graffiti. Now that I'm at it, let me note that the definition of "violence" is not necessarily always in the hands of the "perpetrator." Inasmuch as we have little or no control over our means of production -- or funding, these days ;) -- we have little control over "paradigms" (ahem) such as these. And bravo to all those who literally risk their necks by moving out to the front lines in Palestine/Israel at present (I'm talking about the international human shield/observer activists, lest there be any mistake.) PB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:46:45 +1000 (EST) From: proff@iq.org (Julian Assange) Subject: Re: <nettime> Islam and Tactical Media on Amsterdam Cable > Nothing is in itself good, nor bad, right or wrong, Nothing is, in it itself. The problem with this moral relativism is that morality can then be defined to fall in-line with whatever purpose you espouse. There is no logical solution to discovery that morality has no axioms but simply emerges from the biological and historical inclinations present in interacting human beings. - -- Julian Assange |If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people |together to collect wood or assign them tasks and proff@iq.org |work, but rather teach them to long for the endless proff@gnu.ai.mit.edu |immensity of the sea. -- Antoine de Saint Exupery ------------------------------ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net